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Old February 27th, 2015, 11:51 AM   #1801
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No, if you stay inside the city of Paris boundaries, the fare is the same. But if you travel in the suburbs, the RER fare will be more expensive. For instance, if you go to La Defense, you can either take the line 1 or RER A but RER will be more expensive.
Well... You're right but this case is absolutely unique !

Apart from this case, if you are going from a station A to a station B, if you have a choice between the RER and the metro, the fare will be identical (in fact you use the same ticket).
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Old February 27th, 2015, 12:05 PM   #1802
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Well, Paris suburban railway network is mix of several networks with several height of platform.
Some are hight, others are low, there are been some heightening works in many station but there are still a lot of stations with low platforms.
I don't know if they will increase the height of the platforms at Versailles Chantier. I hope they will do.
So they are trying to get all the platforms the same height eventually? I assume so, wouldn't make sense not to. But will it roll out as other renovations are done at stations or is there a separate project doing this?
Up here in Stockholm we're blessed with stations that almost all have the same platform height. Far fewer stations though, so simpler to keep it that way.
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Old February 27th, 2015, 05:09 PM   #1803
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I don't know.

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A video form Bombardier, the description says that it is the transilien L but in fact this is the J.
A Transilien J from Ermont - Eaubonne
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Old March 2nd, 2015, 08:01 PM   #1804
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Western extension

La Défense
The station will be built under the CNIT, convention center with a shopping, office and hotel space.















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Old March 2nd, 2015, 08:20 PM   #1805
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Old March 2nd, 2015, 08:31 PM   #1806
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Nanterre - La Folie
This station will be built in lieu of a freight station and train yard located behind La Defense
This station will be the terminus for services coming from the east.




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Old March 2nd, 2015, 08:42 PM   #1807
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And how they will risk to build RER station under that centre? It's unbelievable
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Old March 3rd, 2015, 03:57 AM   #1808
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Thanks a TON for these.

Nanterre needs canopies over the stairs and cross walk. I give it two winters before complaints reach a fevered pitch.

I don't see any part of the other lines (RER A, Transilien, T2) at La Defense. What will this station's relationship to them be?

Also, I'm a little concerned about there only being two tracks at La Defense. Transilien and RER A both have four tracks. And the two existing underground stations on the E have four tracks. Is there provision for expansion being included? Because it seems critical to have as much capacity as possible at such a major station.
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Nanterre needs canopies over the stairs and cross walk. I give it two winters before complaints reach a fevered pitch.
Haha, I thought exactly the same!
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Old March 3rd, 2015, 08:17 PM   #1811
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And how they will risk to build RER station under that centre? It's unbelievable
In fact there's no risk at all. The CNIT is an unsupported structure. It's a simple shell supported on only three points ; they only have to avoid them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_...d_Technologies
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Old March 3rd, 2015, 09:27 PM   #1812
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Western extension

La Défense
The station will be built under the CNIT, convention center with a shopping, office and hotel space.


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Western extension

Nanterre - La Folie
This station will be built in lieu of a freight station and train yard located behind La Defense
This station will be the terminus for services coming from the east.




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I don't see any part of the other lines (RER A, Transilien, T2) at La Defense. What will this station's relationship to them be?
Good question. I guess we can see the Transilien station on one of the images, but metro line M1 and RER A are nowhere to be seen (or maybe I haven't realised about them being there).



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Also, I'm a little concerned about there only being two tracks at La Defense. Transilien and RER A both have four tracks. And the two existing underground stations on the E have four tracks. Is there provision for expansion being included? Because it seems critical to have as much capacity as possible at such a major station.
Nanterre-La Folie will play the role for RER E that La Défense plays for RER A.
So there won't be much need of four tracks here, after all, Neuilly-Porte Maillot RER E won't have four tracks either, for instance.

From the spirit of La Défense RER A station, La Défense RER E station will only keep the extra large platforms.
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Old March 3rd, 2015, 09:28 PM   #1813
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I don't see any part of the other lines (RER A, Transilien, T2) at La Defense. What will this station's relationship to them be?
There will be a hall linking them directly.

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Also, I'm a little concerned about there only being two tracks at La Defense. Transilien and RER A both have four tracks. And the two existing underground stations on the E have four tracks. Is there provision for expansion being included? Because it seems critical to have as much capacity as possible at such a major station.
It should not be a problem for RER E. 22 trains/hour are expected at rush hour (approximately 1 train every 3 minutes) which is more or less equal to RER A and B frequencies which run on two tracks for most of Central Paris.


Minato => Where do these renders come from ?
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Old March 4th, 2015, 12:43 AM   #1814
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I don't see any part of the other lines (RER A, Transilien, T2) at La Defense. What will this station's relationship to them be?
Because the rest of La Defense station is not under the CNIT but don't worry the RER E station will be connected to the rest.
There are different corridors linking to the main passengers hall (access to the metro), to the RER A, to the suburban rail and T2 station.

RER A platforms, RER E platforms (Gare Eole), suburban rail and T2 platforms (Quais du Transilien et T2) and the metro line 1 platforms (under Coeur transport).






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Minato => Where do these renders come from ?
These renderings come from La Defense92 site.
Note that I had already posted some of these rendering but on a smaller size.
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Old March 4th, 2015, 07:02 PM   #1816
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Because the rest of La Defense station is not under the CNIT but don't worry the RER E station will be connected to the rest.
There are different corridors linking to the main passengers hall (access to the metro), to the RER A, to the suburban rail and T2 station.

RER A platforms, RER E platforms (Gare Eole), suburban rail and T2 platforms (Quais du Transilien et T2) and the metro line 1 platforms (under Coeur transport).







These renderings come from La Defense92 site.
Note that I had already posted some of these rendering but on a smaller size.
Thank you very much. However, they are a little hard to see. Is there any way you could enlarge them?

Also, what are the fanning paths seen at the bottom and upper left of the lower image?
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The red shapes correspond to the the connection corridors with RER A/metro line 1 (bottom) and suburban trains/tram T2 (upper left). The green shapes are the entrance / exit of the RER E station from / to the ground level.
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The red shapes correspond to the the connection corridors with RER A/metro line 1 (bottom) and suburban trains/tram T2 (upper left). The green shapes are the entrance / exit of the RER E station from / to the ground level.
Ah, sorry. I was referring to the pairs of lines fanning out from the axis of the RER A station starting at the very bottom edge of the picture, and repeated on another axis around the Transilien station at top left, not the colored passages out of the new RER E stop.
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Old March 4th, 2015, 10:40 PM   #1819
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On the left, it is train tracks.
Before and after the transilien train station, there are track leading to Nanterre la Folie.

On the right, it is road tunnels.
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Old March 5th, 2015, 10:59 AM   #1820
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This RER E extension is probably the most important short-term extension in Paris.
This will help reduce the load on both RER A between Chatelet and La Defense (which is the most loaded part of the whole system with 1+ million PAX/day) and RER B between Chatelet and Gare du Nord. Line 1 will also probably be helped in this process as well.
Can't wait to see it done!
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