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Old July 24th, 2008, 02:36 PM   #61
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let's sum up:

S1 west - YES it needs seperate tracks, until now there are no precise ideas about how to solve the S-Bahn connection to Freising and Flughafen. IMO S1 west is the line that is most far away from being perfect.

S2 west - It already has seperate tracks up to Petereshausen. With the new S3 to Altomünster there will be 10 minute service up to Dachau during most of the time.

S4 west - gets it independent tracks very soon to Mammendorf. U/C

S8 west - Will get its seperate tracks up to Buchenau where also the 10 minute service will end. Under planning.

S5 west - It already has it's seperate tracks.

S6 west - Seperate tracks up to Gauting. I do not think there is any need for further extension because regular train traffic is quite low.

S7 west - It already has it's seperate tracks.


S2 east - It will get seperate tracks up to Markt Schwaben. From there on it already has seperate tracks.

S4 east - Has it's own tracks.

S5 east - I do not think there is any need for further extension because regular train traffic is nearly zero.

S6 east - I do not think there is any need for further extension because regular train traffic is nearly zero.


So there is only the S1 west where are no certain details about any extension. If they finish the S4 west S8 west and the S2 east there will be really almost no influence of regular train service on the S-Bahn service.
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Old August 1st, 2008, 12:47 PM   #62
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Somehow i like this page:

http://www.stadtkreation.de/munich/m...animation.html

it is showing a different concept for a second inner city crossing for the s-bahn despite the 2. stammstrecken tunnel.
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Old August 1st, 2008, 01:11 PM   #63
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It shows the proposed alternative to use the existing "Südring" for S-Bahn. Now, it "only" is used by regional and intercity trains to Salzburg-Vienna and Innsbruck-Verona.
I don't know if this would be a realistic option, but they claim it ould be much cheaper, of course. However, I think the will build the second tunnel in every case.
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Old August 1st, 2008, 11:58 PM   #64
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Old December 10th, 2008, 01:11 PM   #65
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[Munich] S - U Bahn Tram and Bus

Urban rail network

2008

http://www.mvv-muenchen.de/web4archi...nnetz_2008.pdf

2009

http://www.mvv-muenchen.de/web4archi...nnetz_2009.pdf

Network map, city

http://www.mvv-muenchen.de/web4archi...vlp08stadt.pdf

TRAM NETWORK PLAN

2008

http://www.mvv-muenchen.de/web4archi...efrei_2008.pdf

2009

http://www.mvv-muenchen.de/web4archi...efrei_2009.pdf

Barrier-free, city

http://www.mvv-muenchen.de/web4archi...07englisch.pdf

Barrier-free, region

http://www.mvv-muenchen.de/web4archi...cts/download/1
/barrierefrei_ges_f1207englisch.pdf


http://www.mvv-muenchen.de/en/home/p...ion/index.html



U Bahn Videos

U4/5 Odeonsplatz


U3/6 Odeonsplatz


U5 Laimer Platz


U5 Heimeranpalatz


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Old December 10th, 2008, 02:36 PM   #66
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There is one thread about Munich alread existing.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=546347

Please Mods, merge that thread!
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Old July 7th, 2009, 03:22 AM   #67
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It's strange that this thread did not receive much attention

I did not expect that much knowing that Munich is a city of just over 1 million when I was in the Bavarian vapital last week. What I found was actually a massive, super-efficient, effective and modern urban/underground rail system with probably not too many equals in the world.

I did take a couple of photos

U-Bahn station
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U-Bahn train
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Inside a modern and pleasant U-Bahn train
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U-Bahn train and platform information
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S-Bahn information
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Urban railway (U-Bahn + S-Bahn) map
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Old July 7th, 2009, 03:41 AM   #68
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Nice pics, I like how sleek and modern the trains look in particular.
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Old July 8th, 2009, 01:30 AM   #69
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Hmm, a city of just over 1 million?
That
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2586/...678a5663_o.jpg
network is serving an area of somewhat 2,6 million. So this means the network is just "normal" for European standards.
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Old July 8th, 2009, 01:38 AM   #70
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Nice pictures.
Munich's subway trains are one of my favorites. I wish Vienna's subway had the interior of the new Munich subway trains, they look so great..
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Old July 8th, 2009, 02:14 AM   #71
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Hmm, a city of just over 1 million?
That
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2586/...678a5663_o.jpg
network is serving an area of somewhat 2,6 million. So this means the network is just "normal" for European standards.
I was referring to the city proper, not metro, urban or anything else.

However the system is a match to even some of the largest European cities by its size and capacity.
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Old July 8th, 2009, 02:01 PM   #72
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Oki, here are the latest stats of Munich

Municipal: 1,35 M
Urban Area: 1,9 to 2,6 M (depending on the standard you count, i prever the 2,6 M not because of "hooray my city is big" but because it covers the suburbs connected by the S-Bahn and are therefore directly dependent and connected to the core city within a more or less continuous built up area)
Offical European Metropolitian Area: 5,2 M
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Old July 9th, 2009, 05:52 PM   #73
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Nice pics, Munich U-bahn is the best subway in Germany and one of the best system in Europe!
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Nice pics, Munich U-bahn is the best subway in Germany and one of the best system in Europe!
Best systems in Europe are Moscow, Madrid and Paris.
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Old July 10th, 2009, 11:34 AM   #75
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Best systems in Europe are Moscow, Madrid and Paris.
I agree with you but I think Munich U-bahn works very well for a medium-size city like the bavarian capital. In Germany it's the best by far, Berlin and Hamburg have bigger subway network but the Munich one is more modern, clean and elegant.
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Old July 11th, 2009, 07:21 AM   #76
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Hmm i do not agree. For sure Berlin subway is miles ahead of Munich! Larger network, much much better service but of course it is more than 100 years old.
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Hmm i do not agree. For sure Berlin subway is miles ahead of Munich! Larger network, much much better service but of course it is more than 100 years old.
In comparison to the size of the city Munich's network is much bigger than Berlin's, the subway density in Munich is higher. Big areas of Berlin are without subway.
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The underground network in München might be relatively denser than the one in Berlin. The S-Bahn, however, regains ground for Berlin. S-Bahn and underground networks are integrated and should be regarded as one.

Both cities have an accomplished public transport network. To favour one over the other is purely subjective.
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The underground network in München might be relatively denser than the one in Berlin. The S-Bahn, however, regains ground for Berlin. S-Bahn and underground networks are integrated and should be regarded as one.

Both cities have an accomplished public transport network. To favour one over the other is purely subjective.
Munich's S-Bahn network is much bigger than Berlin's. Munich is the number two in Germany after Rhine-Ruhr.
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Munich's S-Bahn network is much bigger than Berlin's. Munich is the number two in Germany after Rhine-Ruhr.
Most of this network serves the surrounding suburbs but not the city itself. S-Bahn stations within the city boundaries are nowhere as numerous as in Berlin.
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