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Old June 28th, 2007, 03:10 PM   #181
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Berlin tramguide (big map)

This is the tram map of Berlin. It amazes me, as I`ve seen so litle from this huge system.



It shows what the communist did to Berlin. While on the west, mostly metro was built, on east trams were built.

I wish to see some pics I have some from line 87, but its kinda outside of Berlin.

Pics of line 62, line 63 and line 68 atleast. They look interesting to me atleast

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Old June 28th, 2007, 10:35 PM   #182
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It's a pity still the Western side pulled up their trams. The rest of West Germany pretty much kept their trams, although downsized them as many lines were placed by U-bahns. But Berlin seemed to completely rip them out in the West of the city.

Any chance that they will start expanding again in the West?
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Old June 28th, 2007, 11:11 PM   #183
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Vey interesting. Do you know what the total lenght of the system is and the number of stops?
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Old June 28th, 2007, 11:30 PM   #184
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^ 189.4km from my list, but that could be outdated. Don't know about the number of stops, you'd have to count them on the map.
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Old June 29th, 2007, 01:28 AM   #185
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ha, it might just do that
But it looks bigger then "just" 189km on the map. Anyway maybe this year i'm going to Berlin so i can Check the system out myself.
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Old June 29th, 2007, 01:39 PM   #186
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Old June 29th, 2007, 02:05 PM   #187
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I have used the trams when it was still DDR! It's a very nice system. Hopefully they will expand the system to the west.
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Old July 9th, 2007, 07:42 PM   #188
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Here are the official facts from 31.12.2006...but I would say it´s not 189,4 km anymore, because there were 2 extensions...so let´s talk about 192km

Verkehrsnetz Straßenbahn
Linienanzahl Tag - Nacht(lines day - night):22 - 9
> davon MetroLinien Tag und Nacht(Metrolines day and night):9 - 9
Streckenlänge (km) Tag - Nacht(track length day - night):189,4 - 103,04
> davon Strecke auf besonderem Bahnkörper (km):108
Linienlänge (km) Tag - Nacht(line length):298,43 - 110,46
Haltestellenbereiche Tag - Nacht(stops):377 - 208
Richtungshaltestellen Tag - Nacht(directionstops??):795 - 406
mittlerer Haltestellenabstand (km)(average distance between stops):0,46
mittlere Beförderungsgeschwindigkeit (average speed):19,21
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Old July 15th, 2007, 07:03 PM   #189
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Maybe it´s possible we talk about beautiful pictures of Berlin subway again!?

There´s another Thread for Graffiti!!!





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Old November 10th, 2007, 06:11 PM   #190
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BERLIN - Public Transport Thread

Seems like every big city gets its own Thread here so.....where´s Berlin!?

Here you´ll find all news, facts and pictures about Berlin transport.

I´ll start posting soon

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Old November 10th, 2007, 06:19 PM   #191
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Here's my contribution :

Berlin's buses - http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=360457



Berlin's trams - http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=361266

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Old November 10th, 2007, 06:29 PM   #192
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Just found this old pic of the station "Schlesisches Tor" in Kreuzberg.



Prinzenstrasse:




Looked a zillion times better back then...
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Old November 11th, 2007, 03:06 AM   #193
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I love the double decker buses! They're almost as nice looking as the London double deckers.

The newest trams in the fleet are really quite nice!
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Old November 12th, 2007, 12:30 AM   #194
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@GNU: thanks for this awesome picture from "Schlesisches Tor".
Such beauty.......but it´s so sad, only the 3 buildings on the left survived.....
....on the right side all buildings are gone....i think there´s a park now
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Old November 12th, 2007, 12:34 AM   #195
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Near "Schlesisches Tor" today....here you can see the 3 buildings on the left which survived....

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Old November 12th, 2007, 12:46 AM   #196
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New HK Trains

The "BVG" ordered 20 new HK trains from Bombardier....the first were already delivered. These trains are just for the small profile (U1,U2,U3,U4)

It´s a quite sad story with these trains....they should be delivered in the year 1997....but first there was no money....then the first two trains were delivered but there were some technical problems....now they got it and we need this trains so much....most trains driving on the small profile.....are +40 years old.

For 2011 there´s a new delivery planned....but some new kind of trains called "IK".

Some pics:



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Old November 12th, 2007, 01:24 AM   #197
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Some pics of stations
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The "BVG" ordered 20 new HK trains from Bombardier....the first were already delivered. These trains are just for the small profile (U1,U2,U3,U4)

It´s a quite sad story with these trains....they should be delivered in the year 1997....but first there was no money....then the first two trains were delivered but there were some technical problems....now they got it and we need this trains so much....most trains driving on the small profile.....are +40 years old.

For 2011 there´s a new delivery planned....but some new kind of trains called "IK".
At least the A3 trains were upgraded in 1993. They haven't aged that badly really. At least new stock is coming in 2011! Will the new stock totally replace the old A3 stock or is it going to only be a gap filler for the oldest rolling stock?

The Grossprofil trains seem to be in much better order as their oldest stock is 1990 which is a really reasonable age for metro trains.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 02:03 PM   #199
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The "BVG" ordered 20 new HK trains from Bombardier....the first were already delivered. These trains are just for the small profile (U1,U2,U3,U4)

It´s a quite sad story with these trains....they should be delivered in the year 1997....but first there was no money....then the first two trains were delivered but there were some technical problems....now they got it and we need this trains so much....most trains driving on the small profile.....are +40 years old.
I think the U5 and the U9 are already fully equipped with the new HK trains right?


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For 2011 there´s a new delivery planned....but some new kind of trains called "IK".
You got some info on that?
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Old November 12th, 2007, 02:10 PM   #200
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@GNU: thanks for this awesome picture from "Schlesisches Tor".
Such beauty.......but it´s so sad, only the 3 buildings on the left survived.....
....on the right side all buildings are gone....i think there´s a park now
Yeah its sad isnt it?
So many old buildings have been destroyed in the war, or were pulled down later only to be replaced with those parks that nobody needs anyways..

My favourite would be the old part on the U1 behind the station Bülowstrasse, where the train would pass through a building.
Unfortunately that has been destroyed aswell and nowadays it looks like shite...

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