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Old November 14th, 2007, 01:20 PM   #221
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Old November 14th, 2007, 02:17 PM   #222
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I hope so too, it doesn't look like the U55 will do THAT much good as a shuttle alone, it really needs to be fully integrated to the U-bahn network to make the new Hbf more accessable.
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Old November 14th, 2007, 06:36 PM   #223
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Great!!! Keep em coming!!!
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Old November 15th, 2007, 12:43 AM   #224
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Yeah I think they're stunning too - by the way there is a Berlin S-bahn thread started by Beta too.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 12:54 AM   #225
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I don't see what's so special about those 481 trainsets.
I find the type 480 ones much more striking:

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Old November 15th, 2007, 06:21 AM   #226
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Looks very similar to Melbourne's train network. Similar amount of lines, length, rolling stock etc.

Just a question: how are they powered? I don't see a third rail or overhead wires.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 06:33 AM   #227
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There is a 3rd rail, just on the side.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 06:51 AM   #228
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There is a 3rd rail, just on the side.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 07:22 AM   #229
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The S-bahn is very much like the Melbourne network in as much as it is a metro/commuter hybrid with frequencies of 10 minutes within Berlin 7 days a week and 20 minutes out of Berlin (note the Berlin area is not like the "melbourne city" area in size, it is much much bigger as Berlin city proper has a population of 3.4 million). At night it runs less frequently, but even throughout the night after 00:00 on Friday and Saturday night it operates to a frequency of 30 minutes in Berlin and 60 minutes out of Berlin so it is a slightly more frequent network than Melbourne as on the whole it doesn't differentiate between weekend and weekday service.

The S-bahn network is also supplimented by a faster Regionalbahn network which runs from nearby villages and towns into Berlin. These offer a limited stop service. It is also supplimented within the city with the U-bahn network which is the metro system of Berlin. You can see it shown in grey on the map at the top of the page. In the east of the city it is also supplimented by the metro-tram which is a largely grade separated tram network which runs at 10 minute frequencies. There are also normal trams but these don't run as frequently.

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Old November 15th, 2007, 07:58 AM   #230
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wow the S-bahn is unique and that part of the railway is unique as it has Third Rail on one side for the S-bahns and Overhead Wires on the other side for the Regional, Intercity and High Speed ICE Trains very cool

and London i think has now an S-bahn type called the London Overground it started recently a few days ago
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Old November 15th, 2007, 09:33 AM   #231
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I love Berlin's S-bahn network. The central elevated section is possibly the coolest elevated line in any city in the world. Some great stations along it.

There is also an S-bahn restaurant train (using an historical train) has anyone got pictures of this?
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Old November 15th, 2007, 09:34 AM   #232
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wow the S-bahn is unique and that part of the railway is unique as it has Third Rail on one side for the S-bahns and Overhead Wires on the other side for the Regional, Intercity and High Speed ICE Trains very cool

and London i think has now an S-bahn type called the London Overground it started recently a few days ago
It's not that unique. Nearly every city in Germany has an S-bahn network, although Berlin's was the first from what I know, and the most famous. France and Spain also has their own versions of S-bahns in their major cities, in fact many European cities do.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 09:39 AM   #233
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Looks very similar to Melbourne's train network. Similar amount of lines, length, rolling stock etc.

Just a question: how are they powered? I don't see a third rail or overhead wires.
Not really. The S-bahn (in general description) is similar to Australian, and Melbourne's rail network - in that it is a primarily suburban service that in bundled area's acts almost like a metro. Also in that the trains don't terminate in the city centers but usually continue out the other side.

But Berlin is different to Melbourne in that it has a circular line, it has many elevated sections (the most well known is through the central city) and the stations are vastly different in style.

Also keep in mind that the S-bahn is only one of several different heavy rail options for Berlin, where as the rail network in Melbourne is the only type. In Berlin you also have an extensive U-bahn system (proper metro) and the regional bahns (which operate as express commuter trains in Berlin's metro - often on fully dedicated lines, i.e. extra routes above the S-bahn)
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Old November 15th, 2007, 09:40 AM   #234
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It's not that unique. Nearly every city in Germany has an S-bahn network, although Berlin's was the first from what I know, and the most famous. France and Spain also has their own versions of S-bahns in their major cities, in fact many European cities do.
I guess one way in which the S-bahn is unique is that it is also supplimented by Regionalbahn trains which provide the more limited stop and far flung services in the cities regional areas.

Berlin and Hamburg are the only S-bahn's in Germany to run on third rail power though, which is pretty unique to both of those S-bahns.

And Justme - we seem to be parroting each other a lot with our answers! My response to Gappa was very similar to yours!
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Not really. The S-bahn (in general description) is similar to Australian, and Melbourne's rail network - in that it is a primarily suburban service that in bundled area's acts almost like a metro. Also in that the trains don't terminate in the city centers but usually continue out the other side.

But Berlin is different to Melbourne in that it has a circular line, it has many elevated sections (the most well known is through the central city) and the stations are vastly different in style.

Also keep in mind that the S-bahn is only one of several different heavy rail options for Berlin, where as the rail network in Melbourne is the only type. In Berlin you also have an extensive U-bahn system (proper metro) and the regional bahns (which operate as express commuter trains in Berlin's metro - often on fully dedicated lines, i.e. extra routes above the S-bahn)
Yes I know - gappa may be stoopid, but he's not that stoopid!
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Old November 15th, 2007, 10:46 AM   #236
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Yes I know - gappa may be stoopid, but he's not that stoopid!
Oh, I never thought you were stupid. I apologize if my post hinted at that
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Old November 15th, 2007, 11:29 AM   #237
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Are there any expansions on the cards for the S-bahn? I know that the U-bahn has been ceased apart from the U55 - U5 extension because the city has run out of money (and believes that the current system is extensive enough).
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Old November 15th, 2007, 12:36 PM   #238
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No, not on this map...but I have another one....


..but notice, most of this maybe will be built in the year 2124
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Old November 15th, 2007, 01:27 PM   #239
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I found a picture from 1902, it shows the beautiful elevated station "Nollendorfplatz".




Today it looks so ugly, itīs hard to find words for this
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Old November 15th, 2007, 01:35 PM   #240
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I don't think the current one looks that bad!
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