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Old January 31st, 2009, 11:46 AM   #321
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Old January 31st, 2009, 01:52 PM   #322
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Old February 1st, 2009, 12:08 AM   #323
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Are those cars double ended?
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Old February 1st, 2009, 08:18 PM   #324
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Beautiful tram, I like the color and the design.. looks like the subwaytrains.
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Old February 1st, 2009, 10:06 PM   #325
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Holy god, what a long tram!
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Old February 2nd, 2009, 12:16 PM   #326
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Are those cars double ended?
There are four prototypes:
- single-ended 30m (6-axle, 5 modules)
- double-ended 30m (6-axle, 5 modules)
- single-ended 40m (8-axle, 7 modules)
- double-ended 40m (8-axle, 7 modules)

That there is the double-ended 40m version.

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Holy god, what a long tram!
40m is pretty much a standard length for modern high-capacity single trams in Germany. Variobahn trams are the same length in 8-axle versions.
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Old February 2nd, 2009, 04:18 PM   #327
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May I ask are in Berlin non-loop ended tram lines?
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Old February 2nd, 2009, 04:23 PM   #328
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May I ask are in Berlin non-loop ended tram lines?
Yes there are, i.e. Warschauer Strasse.
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Old February 26th, 2009, 03:54 PM   #329
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This a quite nice map about the actual tram netwok in berlin...




And some pics...





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Old February 26th, 2009, 07:22 PM   #330
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So I think it´s time for an update....

The U55 stations are nearly finished now....have a look! opening: hopefully in August 2009

U-Hauptbahnhof (central-station)






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Old February 26th, 2009, 08:17 PM   #331
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A3L71 train between Warschauer Str. and Gleisdreieck (U1)

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Old February 26th, 2009, 08:47 PM   #332
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Information about U55:


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U55 is a Berlin U-Bahn line that is currently under construction. When completed, it will be very short (only three stations) and will not connect to any other U-Bahn line. It was constructed as part of an extension of the U5 that was postponed due to financial difficulties. As much of the work on this section of the extension had been completed, it was decided to complete it and open the section as a short shuttle line using a single train, to be joined to the U5 at a later date.

The unusual nature of U55 is a result of Berlin's troubled finances. When the German government decided to move from Bonn to Berlin after German reunification, it was decided to refurbish the area around the Reichstag into a modern government complex. As part of this effort, there were plans to extend line U5 from its current western terminus at Alexanderplatz through the city centre, past the Brandenburg Gate and the Reichstag, to the new central train station, Berlin Hauptbahnhof. This Kanzlerlinie (Chancellor Line), so nicknamed because it passed through the government quarter, was originally planned as a diagonal line through central Berlin, continuing to Turmstraße in Moabit, where it would link with the U9, and on to Jungfernheide, where it would connect with the S-Bahn ring and U7, and possibly continue to Berlin-Tegel airport, or if this is closed as planned, to the new neighbourhoods to be built in its place. As this was a long-planned route, short tunnels exist at both Jungfernheide and Turmstraße to accommodate the new line. However, these plans were cut back for financial reasons before construction began, and the line was planned instead to terminate at the Hauptbahnhof, with the route to Jungfernheide to be built at an unspecified later date.

In the late 1990s, construction began on the western end of this extension. However, around that time the city council suffered a major financial crisis, and in 1999 completion of the partially built extension was postponed indefinitely.

However, the city had accepted money from the German federal government for the construction work already finished, and by the terms of the agreement, the city would have had to return the money if there were no operating trains on the line. In 2004, the city and federal governments reached a compromise: the city would complete the short section of line that was largely complete between Berlin Hauptbahnhof and Unter den Linden S-Bahn stations and run it as a single-track shuttle with a single train, without any signaling. Although transit planners do not project that such a shuttle will attract a significant ridership, the city determined that the cost of building and operating the line would be less than the cost of returning the money to the federal government.

The opening of the line between Berlin Hauptbahnhof and Brandenburger Tor has been delayed owing to extreme groundwater problems at the site of the latter new station. Currently (late 2008) the intended opening date is 8 August 2009[1]. The designation of the line as U55 indicates that it is ultimately intended to connect this extension to U5. Work linking the two must begin by 2010 or subsidy from the federal government will be withdrawn; at the moment, 2009 is the target for the beginning of construction of this section.

Because the U55 is not physically connected to the rest of the U-Bahn system, any trains being delivered to the new line will need to be towed along mainline or S-Bahn tracks to reach a connecting tunnel near Hauptbahnhof.
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Old February 27th, 2009, 10:10 AM   #333
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Looks like someone's abandoned their baby!

This thread is terrible, it makes me miss Berlin so much.

It's annoying that the U55 hasn't been connected to the U5 too.
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Old February 27th, 2009, 11:04 AM   #334
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It will be though, which is the main thing.
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Old February 28th, 2009, 02:44 AM   #335
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Are there any expansions on the cards for the S-bahn?
The S9/S45 is going to be expanded beyond its present terminus at Schönefeld to the new airport terminal of BBI (Berlin Brandenburg International). The extension and the new station in the basement of the terminal will open in time with the terminal itself which is expected to be in 2011.

The construction of a second north-south-line is still proposed. This line will short-cut the circle line and serve Lehrter Bf and Potsdamer Platz among other stations. It is basically the whole purpose of this line the improve the reachability of Berlins new main station which is certainly needed.
The new line will diverge from the northern section of the circle line between Westhafen and Wedding and rejoin the southern part between Schöneberg and Südkreuz. A first part of this line could be open from the northern circle line to Lehrter Bf by 2015.
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Old February 28th, 2009, 04:00 PM   #336
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Flexity Berlin trams are super beautiful I like them a lot. cool.
I hope Berlin gets more of this trams soon.
I thought you like Skoda ForCity best Tramwayman! You know they will beat the pants off Flexity LOL!

beta29's map certainly seems to show the stunning difference between the tramway philosophy of the former Comecon countries and the west!
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I thought you like Skoda ForCity best Tramwayman! You know they will beat the pants off Flexity LOL!

beta29's map certainly seems to show the stunning difference between the tramway philosophy of the former Comecon countries and the west!
East Berlin has very little U-bahn connectivity (outside of Mitte) in comparison to the West so it really is a case of 6 of one and half a dozen of the other!
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Old February 28th, 2009, 05:03 PM   #338
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Here is some more information about the 2nd north-south-line...called S21

The blue coloured part is the S21 project:




And here the S21 project is red...




It´s planned to finish the first part until 2016(the northern Hauptbahnhof part)

For the southern part, the construction should start in the year 2018.
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Old February 28th, 2009, 05:13 PM   #339
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Here are some very actual pics from "project Ostkreuz"

Just for info again what I´m talking about...this one here...:




And that´s how it looks like now...a lot has been done!

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This will be the now platform for the ring line:

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Old February 28th, 2009, 05:59 PM   #340
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Fantastic. I'm glad to see that works are getting done on the Ostkreuz site.

Also, thank you Flierfy and Beta for the updates on the prospective new S-bahn alignment.
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