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Old August 12th, 2009, 12:00 AM   #361
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Are they still working on... or planning to extend this line towards Alexanderplatz?

In April and May I was in Berlin, enjoyed it very much, incl. the subways...
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Old August 12th, 2009, 06:10 AM   #362
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What took so much time and money to build such a short tunnel?

Was tunnelling performed with spoons, or is there a secret military bunker included?
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Old August 12th, 2009, 12:51 PM   #363
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Read the article at the top of the thread if you haven't already.
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Old August 12th, 2009, 09:16 PM   #364
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Here is some more information about the 2nd north-south-line...called S21

And here the S21 project is red...

Is the U21 not suppose to connect to the U55/U5 at the station called Reichstag on the pic?

And just out of interest is the "Ost-West-S-Bahn" from 1938/1965, no longer planned. I would have thougt it would provide a needed line into Treptow.

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Old August 13th, 2009, 12:20 AM   #365
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Is the U21 not suppose to connect to the U55/U5 at the station called Reichstag on the pic?
No, the Bundestag station of the U5 is located north west of the Reichstag on the west side of the Paul-L÷be building.
The proposed station on the S21 would be built on the east side of the Reichstag. If it's going to be built at all. There are suggestions to save some money by discarding this station.

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And just out of interest is the "Ost-West-S-Bahn" from 1938/1965, no longer planned. I would have thougt it would provide a needed line into Treptow.
There are no such proposals any more. The S21 is the only intended extension of the S-Bahn network within the circle line (S4).
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Old August 13th, 2009, 02:09 AM   #366
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Yes the Reichstag would useless when it comes to changing between lines, since it connects at Potsdammer Platz and Hauptbahnhof. And the area is already served by the U55/U5 and could therefor easily be discarded.
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Old August 13th, 2009, 02:05 PM   #367
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So what big projects with the U-Bahn are still in the planning. The 200 km line? Or maybe extention of the U4 to Prenzlauer Berg via Hauptbahnhof?
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Old August 13th, 2009, 05:13 PM   #368
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When they extend the U1 to Frankfurter Tor do you think they will build a totally new station at Warschauer Stra▀e? The S-Bahn station could certanly benefit from a better layout and the distance between the S and U is unnessisary long. Since the U1 runs at streetlevel they could easily build a very good connecting station by the bridge.
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Old August 14th, 2009, 03:26 PM   #369
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I used to use that transfer a lot. The walk from the U-Bahn to the S-Bahn is quite long indeed.
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Old August 16th, 2009, 04:51 PM   #370
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Berlin has some cool subway stations. Thx 4 the pics.
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Old August 16th, 2009, 08:59 PM   #371
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So what big projects with the U-Bahn are still in the planning. The 200 km line? Or maybe extention of the U4 to Prenzlauer Berg via Hauptbahnhof?
No big projects only one project, the U5 to Hauptbahnhof, there is no money for other big projects, Berlin is a poor city. They are thinking about closing lines, the U4 for example, because they have not enough money.
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Old August 25th, 2009, 06:01 PM   #372
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Does anyone have photos of what the new Brandenburger Tor U-Bahn station looks like from the outside? I'm interested in how Pariser Platz/Unter den Linden looks now that the construction fences etc... are gone.
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Old September 11th, 2009, 01:46 AM   #373
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Since last tuesday there is a reduced S-Bahn-service again! Only 25% of all trains are in operation! Reason: During a routine inspection at a S-Bahn-carriage it was found that 4 out of 8 brakes were defunct. Now ALL S-Bahn trains in Berlin have to be checked again!

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News - reduced timetable from 08. september 2009
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Dear Passengers,

Owing to safety-critical inspection work which has become necessary at short notice, we are currently unfortunately unable to ensure a fixed timetable. We are however endeavouring to offer services at 20-minute intervals on all lines operating. Please use regional transport, the underground, buses and trams as an alternative.

the following sections are currently not at service:

* Alexanderplatz <> Westkreuz
* Westkreuz <> Nikolassee
* Westkreuz <> Spandau
* Wartenberg <> Springpfuhl
* Sch÷neweide <> Spindlersfeld
* Strausberg <> Strausberg Nord (between Strausberg and Strausberg Nord alternative service by bus)

Map with the limited service. All lines with an "x" are not in operation. 23 stations are closed now.
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Old September 12th, 2009, 06:56 AM   #374
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Actually, market economics is the best system for a great deal of trade and business. This is easily proved by comparing with countries that don't have market economies. We certainly wouldn't be communicating like this on the Internet today in opposite ends of the world if governments were relied upon for technological innovation, development and deployment.

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The U.S. government invented the Internet doofus. It was a creation of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) in 1969.
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Old September 12th, 2009, 03:50 PM   #375
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The U.S. government invented the Internet doofus. It was a creation of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) in 1969.
Wow. What sort of person just calls another a doofus over a discussion like this? Did you never learn any social etiquette when you were a child, or are you still one?

Yes, the US government invented the basic technology behind the Internet, but the fact you are using it now has nothing to do with the government but private companies who invested into the technology and developed the, further. Just look at government designed technology for consumers and you can see how bad they usually are.

By the way, the internet as you use it today, the World Wide Web, Web Servers and the browser to use it was invented by a Brit called Tim Berners-Lee at CERN in Switzerland. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web

But it was Microsoft that brought it to the everyday user with the release of Windows 95. And it was other companies that developed and evolved both the software and hardware that made it possible for everyone, including you to use it on a daily basis.

If the government was solely responsible for the technology needed for the hardware and software of a global internet device in every home of the developed world, I can assure you that we would not have it today.
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Old September 12th, 2009, 09:39 PM   #376
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Hi - my first post to Skyscraper city so be gentle.

I haven't been to Berlin since 1996 (for a Love Parade actually), I used to go a lot when it had it's wall back in the 80's. Back then the S-Bahn was a very neglected system, I seem to think it was run by the GDR (the old East Berlin) and only one or two lines were still running in the western section and there were lots of derelict stations. The trains then looked much the same as now, but had hard wooden seats.

On my first visit in 1981 we took an S bahn from Wannsee into the city and were told off by some West Berlin friends for using it, Westerners only used the U-bahn back then.

Anyway, just showing me age.

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Old September 13th, 2009, 07:56 AM   #377
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Hoosier is one of those wannabe leftists, so don't take his posts seriously Justme.
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Old September 14th, 2009, 02:33 PM   #378
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On my first visit in 1981 we took an S bahn from Wannsee into the city and were told off by some West Berlin friends for using it, Westerners only used the U-bahn back then.
hey derek! Actually your story is quite interesting. Do you happen to have some photos from those days?
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Old September 14th, 2009, 07:54 PM   #379
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hey derek! Actually your story is quite interesting. Do you happen to have some photos from those days?
Very few I'm afraid and most of what I did take was of the wall I think but I'll have a dig through the box. Berlin used to be a very special place when it had its wall, I must go back sometime to see what's left, but somehow I fear it's become just another city - although for all our sakes it's probably a good thing!

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Old September 14th, 2009, 08:15 PM   #380
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No, Berlin hasn't become to "just another city". There is still a mental divide in east and west among many original Berliners. And it is probably the only capital in Europe where it is cheaper to live than in other major cities of the country. That attracts a lot of the arts and subcultural scene, which makes Berlin still special today, just in a positive context.
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