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Old December 1st, 2015, 01:31 PM   #1101
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A missing bit: the curve that connects Hbf with Gesundbrunnen.

Also the track from Birkenwerder to Hohen Neuendorf West. Overall, several connectors of the Aussenring are missing.
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Old December 9th, 2015, 01:35 PM   #1102
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Bombardier Flexity Berlin GT8-08Z 9003

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Old December 9th, 2015, 04:55 PM   #1103
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DB to retain Berlin S-Bahn Ring concession
Wednesday, December 09, 2015



BERLIN senator for urban development and the environment Mr Andreas Geisel confirmed on December 9 that the Senate has selected DB Regio subsidiary S-Bahn Berlin as preferred bidder for a contract to operate the Berlin S-Bahn Ring/South East group of lines for 15 years from 2021

The contract covers the operation of around 9.7 million train-km per year and calls for the introduction of 191 new two-car EMUs, which will be supplied by a consortium of Siemens and Stadler Pankow. The fleet will enter service in five phases:
  • January 2021: Line S47 (Spindlersfeld - Tempelhof/Südkreuz - Bundesplatz)
  • July 2022: Line S46 (Main Station - Königs Wusterhausen)
  • October 2022: Line S8 (Wildau - Grünau - Hohen Neuendorf)
  • April/October 2023: Lines S41 and S42 (two-phase commissioning)
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Old December 10th, 2015, 12:10 AM   #1104
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This is a first impression how the new trains will look like:

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Old December 10th, 2015, 12:59 PM   #1105
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That is pretty hideous in my opinion...
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Old December 10th, 2015, 04:49 PM   #1106
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I like the one above it better.
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Old December 10th, 2015, 04:58 PM   #1107
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That's how designers think those metro users are like:

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Old December 13th, 2015, 10:12 PM   #1108
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The warm colors of the S-Bahn livery and that egdy form just don't match.
Just because Berliners boycott any S-Bahn with other colors doesn't mean they take any S-Bahn just because it's the right colors but nothing else.
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Old December 13th, 2015, 11:08 PM   #1109
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To be really honest, I would like to see a new and more modern color scheme. This one turns any design into an oldtimer. I like classics, but in a museum, if you know what I mean...
By comparison, the bright yellow of BVG will easily fit anything (and maybe doesn't fit well on older designs).

The proposed BR481 prototype was a good change, but not the best one, IMO:


Very '90-ish, indeed. But all that white is also an invite to taggers...

I'd be curious to see an evolution of the BR480 prototype, but with a touch of red somewhere to make it look less cold. And probably better with a metallic paint instead of the flat grey.



Anyway, the first step should be at least to streamline the design by adding the black strip around windows, like any 21st century vehicle.

How they turned an overall good livery...


...into grandma's train, just by removing the black strip.
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Old December 13th, 2015, 11:52 PM   #1110
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Both are beautiful IMO, the first one just looks a tad more like a regional train and the current one looks a bit more friendly (probably because it's a grandma train? )...

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Old December 14th, 2015, 03:05 AM   #1111
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Indeed. All-red looks bland. Whereas the current paint scheme has a bit of class to it.
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Old December 14th, 2015, 09:10 PM   #1112
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By comparison, the bright yellow of BVG will easily fit anything (and maybe doesn't fit well on older designs).
Yes it does not fit. The actual yellow is far more shinier than that of the F-type trains e. g.. This is more of orange, so a little bit of 70s. The original yellow of old AI,AII,B,C and EII-type indeed was another yellow, too.

As a matter of rule BVG decided to paint Hk,Ik,H and G-trains with the new yellow, whereas refurbished F and A3-trains have the older more orange one. It´s because it looks ugly beeing coupled together. Meanwhile you can spot some H-type, with a slightly other yellow on some parts because they had to clean damage from Graffitti fast. This is not very nice, too.

Personally I like the red/anthrazit-colour of old 485, too which gave him the name Cola-can. I also liked the grey prototype of 480 and 481 series. It was said, that designers like those colours, because it gives trains the best visual context to spot angles, edges etc.. It never reached any chance to become the real colour. Maybe the 485 Cola-can would have been the best compromise to let trains be red with modern addition.

The Stadler draft really sucks. Bombardiers trains for Hamburgs S-Bahn are much nicer. I hope they don´t create that ugly trains for U-Bahn and win the competition.

BTW:
8-car instead of 6-car-service started on U1
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Old December 14th, 2015, 09:48 PM   #1113
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8-car instead of 6-car-service started on U1
So finally those long platforms will make sense... Also, did the U12 nonsense (I fail to see the point of that) stop?
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Old December 15th, 2015, 02:21 PM   #1114
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So finally those long platforms will make sense... Also, did the U12 nonsense (I fail to see the point of that) stop?
The U12 wasn´t nonsense. It was the only way to handle it with all the constructions on the U2 line.
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Old December 21st, 2015, 02:28 PM   #1115
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Berlin orders additional light rail vehicles
Monday, December 21, 2015



BERLIN Transport Authority (BVG) has exercised an option with Bombardier Transportation for an additional 47 bi-directional Flexity low-floor LRVs at a cost of €176m

The order is part of a framework agreement signed in 2006 for 206 vehicles. After testing four pre-series LRVs, BVG placed its first firm order for 99 vehicles in 2009, followed by a second batch of 39 LRVs in 2011. The total number of vehicles ordered so far is 189

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Old December 21st, 2015, 11:31 PM   #1116
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Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but did you know about the VBB live map?

h ttp://fahrinfo.vbb.de/bin/help.exe/dn?L=vs_mobilitymap&tpl=fullmap&tabApp=show (sorry, don't have enough posts to post clickable links)

It's in existence for a while already, but has now reached a stage where almost every train and bus in Berlin/Brandenburg is shown in real time. The number behind the line number says how early or late a train/bus is. If there is just a hyphen, no real time data is availabe and it is shown as scheduled.

Note that the features under "Erweiterte Mobilität" are still in an experimental stage.
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Old December 21st, 2015, 11:43 PM   #1117
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Old December 22nd, 2015, 05:33 AM   #1118
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I need a napkin pls
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Old December 22nd, 2015, 10:20 AM   #1119
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Great thanks for his great VBB link showing with a very helpfull way an information which is now becoming very common with the information panels displaying minutes to wait untill next arrivals.
I'll be in Berlin in latye summer 2016, and I'll see how convenient is this tool.
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Old December 22nd, 2015, 12:08 PM   #1120
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I'll be in Berlin in latye summer 2016, and I'll see how convenient is this tool.
Right now I´m looking out of my window and I can assure you, that this page is the best for real time I´ve ever seen in Berlin. It may varies for about 30 seconds from where trains really are.

Amazing, it´s made for bag wearers, means "Stoffbeutelträger" in german. People, spotting trains and collecting everything they can get from urban transport
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