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Old February 27th, 2017, 04:47 PM   #1301
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Does BVG consider the possibility of extending some platforms and making M1 and M4 60m-long trams?
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Old March 14th, 2017, 09:04 PM   #1302
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updates on the U5 extension??? ...anyone?

I'm surprised to see so little on the U5 extension project combining it with the current U55. To me, that is a very exciting and important project. It connects the most central and important parts of Berlin and goes right underneath the famed Unter den Linden boulevard, yet there is practically no discussion of it found on skyscrapercity (especially in english). Even the german thread on it has not been updated since April 2016!!

Is there no interest here in this project?? I thought I could receive updates on its progress, discussion about the station's designs, photos, etc...

Can anyone help out an American who will be visiting Berlin this summer (in July) on what I might expect to see? Is Unter den Linden all torn up still with construction? Or is the boulevard back to normal on the street level, and the construction is happening underground? Are there any most recent updates on when it all might be finished and open?

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Old March 15th, 2017, 12:25 AM   #1303
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I feel like reporting on the U5 extension these days is like watching paint dry. I was there a couple weeks ago but didn't pay enough attention to Unter den Linden (I mostly skipped it, to be honest). However, I don't think there are many (if any) works going on at street level, but someone might be able to clarify this much better than I can.
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Old March 15th, 2017, 04:45 AM   #1304
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What do you expect, Darryl? The U5 runs in the underground where quite natural all the construction happen. There is very little to see for the public right now. If you want to see construction pregessing then you better watch the reconstruction of the Ostkreuz and Warschauer Str stations. There are plenty of forums threads on the internet discussing the construction works with almost daily photo updates.
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Old March 15th, 2017, 06:25 AM   #1305
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When is U5 supposed to be finished again?
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Old March 15th, 2017, 06:56 AM   #1306
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It is exciting to see U5 is reaching Berlin Hauptbahnhof. 1 km of metro in the city center is worth 2 km of metro in the suburbs.

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Old March 15th, 2017, 03:26 PM   #1307
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I think the U5 (or U55) is supposed to open in 2020....I also think that they have encountered many problems with infiltrating water especially under Unter den Linden....That's all I know....
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Old March 15th, 2017, 06:52 PM   #1308
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Well in other countries you have workers putting a bazillion of Selfies on Instagram, exposing every little detail of the construction process for the public to see and share. That just doesn't happen in Germany though or very rarely. It is the same here as with the BER construction (compare that for example to projects in the Philippines, like the Mactan Cebu Airport or OKADA Manila > http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...73502&page=209). So we have to rely on what is visible from the outside, via project webcams or official press releases / websites. And that is often rather limited.

For the U5 the last update on the official website ( http://www.projekt-u5.de/en/construction-journal/ ) was... for Christmas 2016.
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Old March 15th, 2017, 07:42 PM   #1309
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What do you expect, Darryl? The U5 runs in the underground where quite natural all the construction happen. There is very little to see for the public right now. If you want to see construction pregessing then you better watch the reconstruction of the Ostkreuz and Warschauer Str stations. There are plenty of forums threads on the internet discussing the construction works with almost daily photo updates.
I think you misunderstood what I was trying to get at regarding the street level comment. What I meant by that is: Are myself and my visitors going to be able to enjoy Unter den Linden as it is supposed to look or does a large part of the street still have construction equipment, big dirt holes, and fencing all over the place? In other words, I am actually hoping that the station entrances at street level are completed and the remaining construction is underground and out of the public's sight.
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Old March 16th, 2017, 05:32 PM   #1310
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There is a guy/website that documents construction projects in public transport and one section is about the U5. Occasionally the galleries also contain "insider" photos.

baustellen-doku.info/berlin_erweiterung_u5/

There is also a thread in a public transport forum.

bahninfo-forum.de/read.php?9,466791,page=21

Both sites are in German, but maybe Google Translate can bring some sense into them. And with Google Chrome you can have entire pages translated very easily within the original page.

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Old March 16th, 2017, 11:15 PM   #1311
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Well look at that. After I added the official project website to my tracker, today there is an update with photos from the underground: http://www.projekt-u5.de/en/construc...-three-levels/

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The shell of underground station unter den Linden is in the final phase. In summer 2017 the expansion will begin.

On the U5 level of the future crossroads the production of the sole is completed. On the intermediate level, which later serves as a distribution area, the future operating areas will be produced as part of masonry work. At the U6 level, residual work is performed without affecting the passage of the U6.

Before the removal of the subway station can start, the existing pillars must be replaced by the round pillars. The stiffening tubes can also be removed then.
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Old March 17th, 2017, 02:17 AM   #1312
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Thanks ikarus280 and themapguy for the links! They are helpful. My German is good enough that I can get the gist, I only use translators for specific passages I want clarification on sometimes.
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Old March 17th, 2017, 06:02 AM   #1313
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When they say "in summer 2017 the expansion will begin", are they talking about digging, or service, or what?
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Old March 17th, 2017, 06:54 AM   #1314
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Probably laying the track and building the station interiors.
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Old March 18th, 2017, 05:55 PM   #1315
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Probably laying the track and building the station interiors.
The station-shell of Rotes Rathaus is complete, station-shell of Unter den Linden ist almost complete. next year they plan to open the construction-site for the public on one day in summer.

2017 is the start for laying tracks in the tunnels between Brandenburger Tor and Unter den Linden, including almost every other thing (signalisation, station-finish). The same is for Alexanderplatz and Rotes Rathaus section. Still missing is the finish of Museumsinsel. It will be proably the bottleneck in the timeline to get in service in 2020. They are working with frozen-ground and are still in preparation with that.

Not to forget that the existing U55 will have to be refiited for U5. The second track and signalisation plus siding-tracks at Hauptbahnhof have to be build or upgraded. The provisional depot at Hauptbahnhof has to be demolished for that. The nearest event will be the input of 4 vinatge D/DL-trains, refitted for service into U55 to replace the F-trains at thje 27.03.17.
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Old March 18th, 2017, 08:04 PM   #1316
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The nearest event will be the input of 4 vinatge D/DL-trains, refitted for service into U55 to replace the F-trains at thje 27.03.17.
I wonder if they'll buy those back from Pyongyang...
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Old March 19th, 2017, 01:45 AM   #1317
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I wonder if they'll buy those back from Pyongyang...
Maybe these are the ones, Pyöngyang didn't want to buy, cause they were in such a bad state.
No - just kidding - They were kept for museum-purposes
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Old March 24th, 2017, 06:25 PM   #1318
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The U5 and U55 tunnels are now connected...

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/ba.../19557344.html

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So now one can walk underground all the way from the Tierpark to Moabit
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Berlin Hauptbahnof (Berlin Central Station) with incoming S-Bahn train:

S-Bahn at Hauptbahnhof Berlin [CC BY-SA 4.0 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0)], by Martin Falbisoner (Own work), from Wikimedia Commons
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