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Old December 2nd, 2013, 03:45 AM   #2101
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True, but as an image it is pure 'archiporn' of the first class, something for those of us in other cities of the world to lust after!
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 04:00 AM   #2102
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Indeed, it is lovely, but what is the schedule for this? Is it going to start soon? A great render is only that until it is built, and this building has been in the works for years now.
The tower was financed early this month and construction will start early or mid 2014, so get ready for more people getting excited about this tower
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 04:02 AM   #2103
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True, but as an image it is pure 'archiporn' of the first class, something for those of us in other cities of the world to lust after!
Hmm, well you are obviously more enthusiastic about it than I am. Don't get me wrong, it is a great building, but it is not tall enough, and the newest versions of the design are not nearly as interesting as the original ones.

The design is classy and sublime, but it doesn't quite strike me as the "wow" building it could have been.
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 04:04 AM   #2104
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The tower was financed early this month and construction will start early or mid 2014, so get ready for more people getting excited about this tower
Well, hopefully that is true. It would be nice too see legitimate foundation work underway by say, this time next year.

One thing I really hope for in regards to the design of this building is really high quality brown cladding. That would look very unique, imo.
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 04:18 AM   #2105
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Hmm, well you are obviously more enthusiastic about it than I am. Don't get me wrong, it is a great building, but it is not tall enough, and the newest versions of the design are not nearly as interesting as the original ones.

The design is classy and sublime, but it doesn't quite strike me as the "wow" building it could have been.
Well, we can blame the predictable culprits for the loss of height, however, if it comes to quality of design or height, I'll take quality every time. Nirvana is when we get both, unfortunately, the evil powers of nimbys & bureaucracy are a constant cancer of negativity.
I'd rather have this somewhat truncated version of this tower than not have it at all, so we have to accept the lopping in as good a grace as we can muster and move on to taking comfort that it will actually happen and it will be a cut above the herd in quality.
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 04:44 AM   #2106
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Well, hopefully that is true. It would be nice too see legitimate foundation work underway by say, this time next year.

One thing I really hope for in regards to the design of this building is really high quality brown cladding. That would look very unique, imo.
Well here's a link for the press release, knock yourself out.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...65573187682340

I'm actually more exited about this design than the previous, but again I don't obsess with height as many do on this site
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 09:15 AM   #2107
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 09:16 AM   #2108
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 09:20 AM   #2109
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 01:37 PM   #2110
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Well here's a link for the press release, knock yourself out.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...65573187682340

I'm actually more exited about this design than the previous, but again I don't obsess with height as many do on this site
I don't care so much about height, but the old one also had a pretty cool crown and more pronounced beams in the facade.
Anyway, Can't wait to see this rise. it is still a great project.
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 06:36 PM   #2111
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The beams to the facade are staying, we just didn't get a high resolution render of the whole building like the previous yet, tho you can actually see the museum part of the redesigned version is almost identical to the previous. Nouvel would never get rid if this part of the design cause it's as important as the building's unique frame.
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Old January 9th, 2014, 01:00 AM   #2112
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Well they tried to save the Folk Art Museum, but ultimately they could not figure how to incorporate it.

MOMA to Raze Folk Art Museum Building

Decision Made Despite Protests from Architects and Preservationists

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The Houston-based developer, Hines, plans to start construction on a $1.3 billion luxury-condominium tower at 53 W. 53rd St. this summer. Mr. Lowry said the folk-art building would be demolished before then.
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Old January 9th, 2014, 01:22 AM   #2113
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I'm sure the architectural plans and drawings for the Folk Art Museum still exist in case anyone wants to rebuild it elsewhere.


Otherwise, this is merely a case of a big, sleek ocean liner running over a charming buoy.

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Old January 9th, 2014, 01:23 AM   #2114
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While an interesting building, I think it can make room for this tower.
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Old January 9th, 2014, 02:43 AM   #2115
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Since outstanding and historic structures are razed routinely in NY, it's so phoney to moan over the loss of this ten year old building.
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Old January 9th, 2014, 02:48 AM   #2116
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All structures eventually become historic. I don't judge a building by its age but by how good it looks. This building was interesting, but Verre exceeds it. Even if it was an old building Verre would exceed it.
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Old January 9th, 2014, 04:40 AM   #2117
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What happen to the "like" button??

Anyway, totally agree with RW.

MOMA should secretly raze this overnight this weekend and just surprise everyone Monday morning and be done with it. Lol.

I honestly don't think New yorkers or even tourist visiting the MOMA actually stop, look and admire this thing unless they are some kind of architecture student. Even that may be a stretch.
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Old January 9th, 2014, 07:17 PM   #2118
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In regard to the razing the Folk Art Museum, this is what they have planned..


Via CurbedNY

It's glassy, modern and I like it. The look will integrate seamlessly with Tower Verre.
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Old January 9th, 2014, 07:33 PM   #2119
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This thing is so elegant. It takes trends that are easily (and frequently) botched and executes them artfully, jesus, very exciting. The bracing on it kind of gives me a mutated hancock center impression.
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Old January 9th, 2014, 08:46 PM   #2120
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MoMA Unveils Its Glassy Redesign, Will Raze Folk Art Museum



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Followers of MoMA's long-awaited expansion plans have some reprieve. Yesterday starchitects Diller, Scofidio + Renfro released three renderings and details that further illuminate the museum's future aesthetic (glassy) and layout (large). The plans also reveal that the contemporary art powerhouse will, in fact, raze the American Folk Art Museum, a 53rd Street neighbor with a Tod Williams Billie Tsien-designed bronze facade that architects, preservationists, archicritics, and other vocal supporters fought to save after the modern art powerhouse bought it up in 2011 and announced its plans to demolish last year. Advocates remained hopeful that MoMA would not tear down what one critic called a post-9/11 "Midtown icon"—a grassroots campaign even got DS+R and officials to consider how to incorporate it—but MoMA director Glenn D. Lowry said yesterday that a teardown was the only option.

The former museum is set to house a 15,500-square-foot "Art Bay" with exhibition and performance space above. As part of the entire renovation, which totals 100,500 square feet, MoMA will build a retractable glass wall, more new gallery space, and open its entire first floor, sculpture garden included, free to the public via a new entrance. The lobby will also get enlarged. Construction will begin this spring or summer with the goal to finish in 2018 or 2019.


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The former American Folk Art Museum at 42 West 53rd is set to be demolished to make way for MoMA's glassy expansion. Curbed
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