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Old April 22nd, 2014, 10:07 PM   #2181
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MoMA Commences Demolition of the Folk Art Museum Building
http://www.metropolismag.com/MoMA-Co...lk-Art-Museum/
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Old April 24th, 2014, 05:33 AM   #2182
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I think people will forget about the facade if it is kept hidden in a warehouse. But sadly that is the way of progress.
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 01:15 AM   #2183
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Not sure how we missed it. It's a couple of months old but seems like we have a date for the groundbreaking of that beauty. Also gives one more reason why the Folk Art Museum had to go.

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...And it would be a win-win-win. Right now, the Folk Art Museum building stands between MoMA and the Nouvel tower, in which MoMA plans to occupy three floors. Moving the small building out of the way would eliminate the circulation problems that MoMA says are the reason it must be demolished. The wrinkle is that Nouvel would have to redesign the base of the building, sometimes called MoMA Tower and sometimes called Tower Verre (Hines has not yet settled on a name, according to a spokesman) to account for the slight change in configuration.

But Nouvel has been working with the existing site since 2007 and Toronto-based Adamson Associates, the architect of record, is “completing the construction documents with Jean Nouvel’s input,” according to Nick Zigomanis, who runs Adamson’s New York office. David Penick, Hines’s managing partner for the project, says the approval process—which concluded in 2011—was "complicated." "It took a long time and involved a lot of pieces,” he says. And Hines has no plans to revisit it. Not that Hines is pushing for the demolition of the tower’s diminutive neighbor. "We designed the building assuming that the Folk Art Museum would be there, and from our perspective there's no change,” says Penick, who adds that groundbreaking is scheduled for June. MoMA's director Glenn Lowry has said that the Folk Art building will be gone by summer.
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Old May 9th, 2014, 01:56 AM   #2184
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Awesome!!!

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Old May 9th, 2014, 08:50 PM   #2185
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fantastic news!
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Old May 9th, 2014, 10:21 PM   #2186
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Yea like he said that is old news. I knew about it for awhile, surprise no one posted it...But more importantly it's great to hear again that it's only a month away!!
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Old May 20th, 2014, 03:27 AM   #2187
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This baby is ready to go. As I mentioned earlier the metal grid on the facade is still there. Can't wait to see the new renders.

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Old May 20th, 2014, 02:39 PM   #2188
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As beautiful a that shape looks, it could only look more beautiful if it was taller. :/
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Old May 20th, 2014, 07:45 PM   #2189
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As beautiful a that shape looks, it could only look more beautiful if it was taller. :/
Maybe remind Gary Barnett The model in his office that has been speculated to be of 217 57th street has a lot of similarities with that drawing:


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It is more fluid than Torre Verre, but has the wedge shape and metallic expressed structure.



I would not mind a larger sibling to this tower!
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Old May 21st, 2014, 04:21 AM   #2190
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In the blueprint above, what exactly is the "Encroachment Area"?
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Old May 21st, 2014, 04:44 AM   #2191
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I think that is referring to the empty space caused by the set back. But I'm not entirely sure.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 04:51 AM   #2192
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I am hardly an expert, but I would venture that it has something to do with setback regulations and any variances from the standard setback form that this tower might have been given. Anybody more knowledgable want to weigh in?
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Old May 21st, 2014, 08:01 AM   #2193
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In the blueprint above, what exactly is the "Encroachment Area"?
I believe this is where the building encroaches upon what is officially referred to as the "sky exposure plane". That plane requires setbacks from the street at different elevations and its why 432 park and 111 57th st. Are mid block towers.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 07:51 PM   #2194
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In the blueprint above, what exactly is the "Encroachment Area"?
Good question

An encroachment area is the space associated with building elements that prevent the use of the space for furniture, equipment, circulation, or other occupant functions.

In this case the encroachment area is a perimeter encroachment, i.e. the space associated with building elements on, or in, the outer wall.

It's an expression used in Area Optimization, a discipline dealing with obtaining the most value from spaces planned to perform a function in support of business objectives.
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 08:17 AM   #2195
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Good question

An encroachment area is the space associated with building elements that prevent the use of the space for furniture, equipment, circulation, or other occupant functions.

In this case the encroachment area is a perimeter encroachment, i.e. the space associated with building elements on, or in, the outer wall.

It's an expression used in Area Optimization, a discipline dealing with obtaining the most value from spaces planned to perform a function in support of business objectives.
Not what this encroachment area is referring to. The shaded area there is referring to the portion of the building that encroaches upon the sky exposure plane as you can see in New York C5 zoning here

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/html/zone/zh_c5.shtml
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 09:15 AM   #2196
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I see. Thanks for clarifying that.
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Old May 23rd, 2014, 08:00 AM   #2197
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Yeah, but we at least we have Steinway to compensate.
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Old May 27th, 2014, 08:31 AM   #2198
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Old May 27th, 2014, 01:58 PM   #2199
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ready to go.

that 2nd pic is awesome.
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I'm getting amped up for the start of this tower.
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