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Old November 15th, 2016, 05:15 PM   #3021
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I still think that using rusty steel for the diagonals would've been much nicer, or braver.
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Old November 15th, 2016, 05:35 PM   #3022
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TBH i have expected rusty steel to be used on this one. None the less, a very nice building underway to grace the skyline. A true masterpiece for a scene in Batman or so.
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Old November 15th, 2016, 05:42 PM   #3023
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I agree, the contrast between the black glass and rusty beams could have been fascinating, but like I said that's probably too brave for the tacky people who might live over there, so if they only want sleek - give them sleek, it's the rule of the market.
Edit: Also, they could've used terracotta to cover the diagonals, not painted, in its natural shade of orange color.
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Old November 15th, 2016, 05:49 PM   #3024
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Was that something that was discussed? It never occurred to me that rusted steel was even a consideration, I don't know quite how I would have felt about it. I'd appreciate the "honesty" of it. And we romanticize the oxidation of bronze when it turns a brilliant green. On the other hand, unless executed perfectly, I might find the aesthetics sort of icky.

Paradox Planet has a nice list of some well-done rusted steel structures. I particularly like Broadcasting Place Tower in Leeds:



And of course Barclays Center is another, darker interpretation that works well.

Not to derail this particular thread, since ultimately that is not what we are getting, but this is a great time for experimentation in NYC, and hopefully someone will attempt a rusted highrise/skyscraper in the near future.
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Old November 15th, 2016, 05:56 PM   #3025
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I don't think it was discussed before, it came in my mind after seeing some of the older renders which suggested a brownish look of the building's aesthetics.
I agree, it's amazing time for experimentation of the architectural styles in New York, once again I'd love if they use terracotta in its natural color, in some other projects.
By the way I remember seeing some place (I think it was in Brooklyn) it had rusty beams on the outside, like frames, it looked very good, the rest was glass I think, I don't remember the name of the project, but it was in Brooklyn.
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Old November 15th, 2016, 06:05 PM   #3026
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I found the project which I mentioned: Williamsburg, Brooklyn - The Williamsburg Hotel - 96 Wythe Ave
Edit: By the way I really really like the can-gili-footbridge, the last example in the link that you posted.
Here's an article from dezeen about it. It's in Spain. Spanish people like always have so much understanding of aesthetics and materials. https://www.dezeen.com/2010/08/28/ca...-alfa-polaris/
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Old November 16th, 2016, 12:17 AM   #3027
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I waited years for this building to start. & for me seeing it now is like it jumped out of the ground.
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Old November 18th, 2016, 02:10 PM   #3028
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Old November 18th, 2016, 02:19 PM   #3029
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Some interesting facts...

http://www.enr.com/articles/40906
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Crews were pouring concrete at around the 20th floor in November, and the project team expects to hand over MoMA’s space for interior work in early 2017 and to top out on the entire structure in early 2018. But it has been a long time in the making.
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But at the time, the project then known as Tower Verre, was supposed to rise to 1,250 ft, nearly equal to the Empire State Building. Opposition quickly formed as neighbors in midtown, legislators and planning officials objected to the project’s scale. After negotiations, the City Council approved the 1,050-ft version in 2009 although it has architectural elements that will reach 1,113 fit.
Some good info about the building's structure in that article.
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Old November 18th, 2016, 03:35 PM   #3030
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wow thats good to hear. I thought it was 1050 to the top. Hopefully I can see it from LIC.
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Old November 20th, 2016, 11:34 PM   #3031
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Old November 21st, 2016, 10:44 AM   #3032
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Great to see that many supertalls u/c in Gotham City
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Old November 22nd, 2016, 03:07 AM   #3033
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Some interesting facts...

http://www.enr.com/articles/40906


Some good info about the building's structure in that article.
Experts on SSP are saying the journalist messed up and accidentally counted the elevation (63') as 'architectural features.
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Old November 22nd, 2016, 12:37 PM   #3034
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Amazing design....I looks great.
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Old November 22nd, 2016, 10:57 PM   #3035
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I love parametric design!
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Old November 24th, 2016, 05:58 PM   #3036
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compared to the supertall construction sites of other nations...


Gotham metropolis by Li Shen, on Flickr
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Old November 24th, 2016, 06:41 PM   #3037
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Truly boggles the mind. There is no "site," it's just construction!
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Old November 24th, 2016, 11:10 PM   #3038
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That is a real challenge from a logistical point of view.
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Old November 24th, 2016, 11:22 PM   #3039
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New York doesn't fail to make just another Coruscant impression. One.of.a.kind.
We want a megatall!
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Old December 1st, 2016, 04:42 PM   #3040
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Hi guys!

There is the progress in the construction during the months of July and August.

July 2016



August 2016



Thank you!!!
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