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Old January 7th, 2018, 09:11 PM   #3621
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Shadows are a serious problem. Please be a little bit more considerate.
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Old January 8th, 2018, 03:36 AM   #3622
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When I studied architecture in college one of the first lessons I was taught was that buildings and designed spaces are designed first and foremost for people... to provide them shelter, comfort, a sense of dignity and/or serenity, etc.

I love skyscrapers... that's why I come to this forum. I love thoughtfully designed skyscrapers more than those that are less thoughtfully designed. I'm thrilled with the grandeur and sheer height of these buildings going up on Billionaires' Row. They will add a tremendous chapter to the skyline of the greatest city on earth... one that will last for centuries if not longer.

One of the greatest things about New York City is Central Park. You can't see it from New Jersey, or Brooklyn, Queens, the Bronx or anywhere else. It is smack dab in the heart of New York City and it was put there to provide a place of refuge for the millions of people who live in, love and share this great city. These buildings, which I think most on this forum will agree, will be the living spaces of people so rich that they will spend almost no time in them, let alone more than the occasional stroll in Central Park. They are not for the 1%, they are for the .000001%. OK, that's fine, they can afford it.

As I said, I am thrilled about these supertalls from a skyscraper lover's perspective. From the perspective of someone who has spent countless hours relaxing in Central Park , I understand the negativity their shadows cast over the park in the winter months. Skating on Wolman Rink is much colder in the shadows than in the sunlight. Walking under the leafless trees in the dappled sunlight on a winter day is a pleasant experience. Standing on a rock and catching a few minutes of rays is rejuvenating... until the shadow passes over you and you get a chill.

It's easy for you to mock me with a quick one-liner. Let's see those of you who have committed such simple mockery state your case with the same thoughtfulness and eloquence as I have just done. If you do it well and convincingly, only then will I accept your mockery. Otherwise please be respectful of others' opinions and realize that maybe, just maybe, someone else has a valid point to make.

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Old January 8th, 2018, 03:41 AM   #3623
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totally agree

The white shapes in the shadows..... They look like, eh. Never mind.
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Old January 8th, 2018, 04:35 AM   #3624
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Old January 8th, 2018, 06:00 AM   #3625
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It may not be the tallest, but it's a skyline changer.
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Old January 8th, 2018, 06:48 PM   #3626
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I think the people who were complaining about the shadows were more worried about their own sunlight in the Upper East and West Sides than in Central Park.

I think they are more worried about their property values as these supertalls offer better views, amenities, and a more modern design. Iím telling you once you have floor to ceiling windows, there is no turning back. Itís therapeutic just standing there and getting lost in thought.
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Old January 8th, 2018, 07:07 PM   #3627
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Iím telling you once you have floor to ceiling windows, there is no turning back. Itís therapeutic just standing there and getting lost in thought.
Can I come visit your place sometime? I'd like to get lost in thought.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 10:22 AM   #3628
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If you want another vantage point try One World Observatory. The view from there is stunning, now I know why people like floor to ceiling windows. (Only drawback is there's too many people to get lost in thought).
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Old January 12th, 2018, 09:17 AM   #3629
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Photos taken by my dad, who always makes sure to update me on the construction going on in NY.
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Old January 12th, 2018, 11:21 AM   #3630
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This is turning out much less aggressive than I thought it would. I was sure it was going to completely steal the attention from its neighbors, but it actually blends in to a surprising degree.
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Old January 12th, 2018, 11:23 AM   #3631
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I like the shape of the tower, but I am somehow disappointed by the cladding. I have hoped for it to have a rough rusty feel to it, with depth. Means, that the cross beams are really articulated like at the John Hancock tower. I overall like this building, but I feel that it is a bit overhyped yet.
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Old January 12th, 2018, 04:29 PM   #3632
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I agree with both of you. If the columns and beams weren't flush with the windows and they were a slightly different color, they would stand out much more and the building would be much more interesting. Maybe when the cladding rises above its neighbors it will be more visible because it won't be in their shadows. Especially in the first photo taken by Daddy Goodybear.

Still a very nice addition to the skyline.
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Old January 12th, 2018, 10:05 PM   #3633
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There will be a construction documentary airing on the Science Channel next Thursday about this tower.
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Old January 16th, 2018, 10:37 PM   #3634
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Old January 17th, 2018, 07:00 AM   #3635
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Tower Verre (53W53) by NyConstructionPhoto, on Flickr



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Old January 17th, 2018, 07:07 AM   #3636
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Looking good under a bright blue sky.
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Old January 17th, 2018, 01:56 PM   #3637
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Looking GREAT under the sun.
I too was a little iffy with the cladding at some point but the higher the tower grows, the more it is starting to resemble what I expected, especially now that we’re starting to see what it looks like under the sun.
The best skyscraper going up in NYC right now and in quite some time in my book, along with Steinway.
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Old January 17th, 2018, 10:28 PM   #3638
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Old January 17th, 2018, 11:10 PM   #3639
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WOW! You can really see the difference in width between 111 West 57th and 432 Park Avenue. Makes the latter almost look wide compared to the former!
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Old January 18th, 2018, 05:21 AM   #3640
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In a couple of years we could see up to 10 supertalls in the same angle of that picture above in midtown. :-)
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