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Old May 22nd, 2012, 03:40 AM   #1441
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It is all great of course, but this bit bothers me. Wasn't the design final (regardless of it's height)? Does it mean it may still have completely different one?
Hines was required to maintain the same essential design. Its revised plan, which was approved, keeps the same basic design.

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Old May 22nd, 2012, 04:02 AM   #1442
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Fantastic news! This is by far the best skyscraper in the works in NYC.
It's an amazing project, and that's saying a lot in light of KPF's supertalls scissor towers, One57, 2WTC, Girasole, 56 Leonard, etc. -- not to mention a supertall by HdeM at 225 W57th!
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Old May 22nd, 2012, 09:12 AM   #1443
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78 stories?? So there is a chance of an increasing in its height? I hope so!
nah, it'll stay 1050 feet, the media often gets figures wrong, or maybe the 72 floor figure was the wrong one, who knows?
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Old May 22nd, 2012, 09:25 AM   #1444
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I cant wait for this baby to start
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 03:26 AM   #1445
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Not much new here but it does indeed look like a 78 story job.

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Nouvel Rejoins Starchitect Showdown at MoMA Canyon



Things appear to be getting crowded on West 53rd Street around MoMA; maybe too crowded. Developer Hines is resurrecting its plans for a Jean Nouvel-designed residential spire next to the museum on 53rd Street between Fifth and Sixth Avenues, according to Crain's. The original plans for a 1,250 feet tower was rejected by the City Planning Commission and then the economy cooled by the time a smaller plan was approved. The latest scoop on the plans for a MoMA neighbor describe a 78-story building with 480,000 square feet of apartments above a 92,000-square-foot hotel. It will also include space for MoMa as well as a restaurant space.

Directly across from MoMA, at 20 West 53rd Street, Starwood Capital is forging ahead with its plans to build a 45-story tower that will house a Baccarat-branded hotel and luxury residences. Enrique Norten and SOM have both been linked to the Baccarat project. Will two towers going up across the street from each other fuel a starchitect showdown on West 53rd?

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Old May 23rd, 2012, 01:40 PM   #1446
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Showdown? Nouvel wins with hands down.
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 06:00 PM   #1447
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Showdown? Nouvel wins with hands down.
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Enrique Norton is usually very good but his Baccarat Tower proposal is just some kind of weird Seagram Building mimicry. Really disappointing.
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Old May 25th, 2012, 03:56 AM   #1448
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Lowering the height by 200 feet was a foolish mistake by the NYC Planning Commission.

We need taller buildings to rise above the trees when viewed from Central Park!
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Old May 25th, 2012, 01:04 PM   #1449
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Wow, just another black box for NY. Are they trying to make the building invisible?
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Wow, just another black box for NY. Are they trying to make the building invisible?
Naah, they just want it to blend in.
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Old May 25th, 2012, 07:36 PM   #1451
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Lowering the height by 200 feet was a foolish mistake by the NYC Planning Commission.

We need taller buildings to rise above the trees when viewed from Central Park!
agree, 380m would be better for this one.

you probably won't see much from it in the skyline at 320m ( like chrysler building )
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Old June 13th, 2012, 08:12 PM   #1452
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With money flowing to safe-havens like NY and London property markets, Hines should find financing soon enough:

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...TATE/120619964


Hines finds cash for Bryant Park tower

Big Houston-based developer signs up JPMorgan Chase & Co. to provide needed cash for a planned 28-story, 470,000-square-foot tower. Property's relatively modest size seen as easing path to funding.

By Theresa Agovino @theresaagovino

June 13, 2012 5:59 a.m.

Hines has reached a deal with JPMorgan Chase & Co. to get financing for Hines' planned 470,000-square-foot office tower on Sixth Avenue, overlooking Bryant Park, sources familiar with the deal said....
Hines is still seeking financing for the luxury residential tower it plans to construct across the street from the Museum of Modern Art.A Hines spokeswoman declined comment, while a JPMorgan Chase spokesman didn't return a call.



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Old June 13th, 2012, 09:19 PM   #1453
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London isn't a safe heaven as NY now, the new Budget will ruin the prime market!
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So wait, the design will change?

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The black condo tower doesn't have a thread?
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So wait, the design will change?

No, it hasn't changed.
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Old June 13th, 2012, 09:32 PM   #1457
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London isn't a safe heaven as NY now, the new Budget will ruin the prime market!
It might ruin it for Brits but not for mega-rich people from the Persian Gulf and unstable parts of Europe that want a safe haven. London property always will be like money in the bank. Who wouldn't want to live in Knightsbridge?
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Stalled High-Profile Condo Projects Begin Comeback Trail



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The city hasn’t exactly reverted to the go-go days of the boom, but as The Real Deal reported in its July issue developers are revisiting planned condominium projects and completing them — not as rentals, for a change — to meet the growing demand. In 2007, 511 condo projects were planned for Manhattan and Brooklyn. In 2012, 255 such developments are in the works and the New York Times provided updates on some of the most closely watched ones.

Starwood Capital’s Baccarat Hotel, for example, which will have 114 hotel rooms and 64 condos across 45 stories is under construction at 20 West 53rd Street. At 56 Leonard Street, where Alexico laid the foundation for a planned 57-story Herzog & de Meuron tower, Hines has come on board and led a big push to secure financing. Corcoran Sunshine Marketing Group will open the project’s sales office by year’s end. Sales also began this month at RFR Holding’s 20-story condo conversion of an apartment building at 530 Park Avenue.

At One Madison Park, which has a history of trouble almost as lengthy as the 50-story building itself, Related Companies is renovating the lobby, completing construction and will likely bring the units to market this fall. Lastly, the Zeckendorfs’ 18 Gramercy Park is slated to hit the market in September.

In the next year and a half, five more high-profile projects should begin sales. They include 388 Bridge Street, the tallest building in Brooklyn, 432 Park Avenue, the city’s tallest residential tower, the Carlton House at 680 Madison Avenue, the 78-story Jean Nouvel-designed Tower Verre, at 53 West 53rd Street, and 737 Park Avenue.
2013-2014 start for Tower Verre?
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Old July 13th, 2012, 10:47 PM   #1459
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Hopefully 2013. I'm ready for this baby to start construction.
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Old July 14th, 2012, 02:00 AM   #1460
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+2000' baby!
1,050 ft, man.
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