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Old July 12th, 2008, 10:16 PM   #341
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I would not be so sure about Wembley being old and overused in 2018. I think it is a terrific venue. Now stadium developments will always advance, that is normal, so Wembley might not be the best of the best in 10 years time. But I have not heard of that many stadium plans which will make Wembley outdated or so. Let us not get arrogant over new stadiums we might have if the WC-2018 comes to Belgium and the Netherlands. They have to be build first. After that has been done we can compare how good these stadiums are against the competition from elsewhere in the world.
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Old July 17th, 2008, 04:48 PM   #342
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once this expansion is done this stadium will look like a mini st james' park looks good steep stands and close to the pitch. any renders of how it will look when the stadium will be fully finished to 40,000 ?
photoshop...40,000?
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Old July 18th, 2008, 01:25 PM   #343
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Yes that is a nice photoshop image which gives a good idea how the stadium will look like after the second phase has been done. In the mean time new updates from The Grolsch Veste from FC Twente Enschede and from the Philips Stadium of PSV Eindhoven. They are updating the business facilities on the main stand.

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Old July 19th, 2008, 08:25 PM   #344
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looks they use cheap materials to build that new stadium of Twente
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Old July 19th, 2008, 08:51 PM   #345
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There is a minority in brussel who is flemish. The flemish government is responsable for person related policy concerning that minority. The region of Brussels Capital is responsable for ground+ buildings related policy concerning that minority. The flemish government wants 'flemish' friendly stadiums in brussels I think. But you are right, investing in stadiums in brussels is not the responsability of the flemish government.

But the flemish government has too much money:

-flanders is whole debtfree in 2008
-they have two funds : carefund (800 mio) + futurefund (500 mio)
-They promise a reduction of taxes of 250 euro/flemish working person
-Take over debts of municipalities (-610 mio) if the municipalities don't raise their taxes and debts, causing more space for policy for municipalities.
-Take over all provincial roads
-1.8 milliard more space for policy in 2008 than in 2007
...

And the federal government has too less. That's why flemish people want reforms (more policy for flanders with appropriate distribution of money). But the french don't want it.
Why don't the Flemish just secede from Belgium ?
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Old July 22nd, 2008, 07:01 PM   #346
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looks they use cheap materials to build that new stadium of Twente
It wonīt be a glamour stadium, but I think it is going to be a good footballstadium. The atmosphere is always good in Twente and that to me is the most important.
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Old July 22nd, 2008, 07:47 PM   #347
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looks they use cheap materials to build that new stadium of Twente
cheap materials as in steel and concrete??
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Old July 22nd, 2008, 09:22 PM   #348
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looks they use cheap materials to build that new stadium of Twente


What do you expect? Marble and silver?

well, here is something that looks cheap :


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Old July 22nd, 2008, 11:36 PM   #349
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Oops, that is an ugly stadium from the outside. Which stadium is this?
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Old July 23rd, 2008, 12:40 PM   #350
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The stadium of Genkie's beloved KRC Genk....
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Old July 23rd, 2008, 03:36 PM   #351
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Old picture, but you don't see the stairs of of the upper ring like in most stadiums.



business area:

mirror glass of 3000 euro's per unit




themacafé (level 1 main stand):






lounge for other business seats (level 2 main stand) and 1000 corner seats (level 2,3 and 4 corners)




same business facilities with 2 floating vaults (= 'zwevende toog') (corner north and south level 1)



warmed seats and the lansom lounge (with flatscreens) (level 3 main stand):







lodges (with flatscreens) and warmed outside seats (level 4 main stand):




press tribune (level 5 main stand): full inside seats


the museum (www.goalmine.be): (corner south level1)












the fanshop (south stand level 1)




here some facts in dutch about the business area facilities:

17 loges
Verschillende zalen in auditoriumopstelling
Zaal in theaterstijl
Zaal in klasstijl
Expositieruimtes
Zalen voor fuiven en evenmenten
Banketruimtes
Uitstekende en uitgebreide cateringsfaciliteiten
Audiovisueel materiaal en LED-wall (48 mē) voor productpresentaties


cafe youth (across the street)





look at the outside of :

De Kuip: ugly
Estadio Da Luz: ugly
Amsterdam Arena: ugly

what counts for me is comfort, not good architecture or something.

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Old July 23rd, 2008, 08:54 PM   #352
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you started it..
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Old July 23rd, 2008, 09:20 PM   #353
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you started it..
He just questioned it...

Any drawings or renders how an extendet stadium of Genk would look like Genkie?
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Old July 24th, 2008, 12:03 AM   #354
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Look at post 337 and you know why I said something about the twente stadium.
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Old July 24th, 2008, 01:25 AM   #355
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Old July 24th, 2008, 09:02 PM   #356
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Look at post 337 and you know why I said something about the twente stadium.
Thanks, by the way if your check the site www.thuisbijtwente.nl you can see it ainīt that cheap. I think itīs allright. Good enough for a footballstadium also the outside. The inside is going to be very nice mop.
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Old July 24th, 2008, 10:34 PM   #357
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The stadium of Genk looks a little bit old fashiond. Using of cheap materials.
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Old July 26th, 2008, 05:06 PM   #358
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outside of stadium of genk is indeed cheap.

Our region is a region of closed coalmines. The people had to work hard for their money. A stadium of 200 mio would not be accepted in the region. It would be seen as a waste of money.
We also don't like technical players with no mentality to work.
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outside of stadium of genk is indeed cheap.

Our region is a region of closed coalmines. The people had to work hard for their money. A stadium of 200 mio would not be accepted in the region. It would be seen as a waste of money
Genk simply can't afford an expensive stadium, all the rest is bullsh*t.
They had to economize as much as possible in order to reduce financial risk.
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No matter how it looks on the outside, Genk's Cristal Arena is still on of the best stadiums in Belgium. It's ranked 1st in terms of VIP seats, and has the 5th biggest club stadium capacity, 6th biggest overall. They also made a good choice by keeping a standing area. What's more: Genk owns its stadium, like Anderlecht but unlike Bruges, I'm not sure about Charleroi and Standard. And, if I'm correct, the stadium was not financed with government money, unlike the stadiums in Charleroi, Ličge and Bruges.

I agree that the stadium could look better from the outside, and that doesn't even have to be that expensive. I personally prefer exposed concrete over the actual blue metal cladding. Standard has similar, bright red cladding on the Sclessin Stadium (but there the bottom part luckily was left uncovered).

In terms of outside looks of recently built stadiums (because I like some older stadiums as well, like the one of Union Saint-Gilloise), I prefer the Stade du Pays de Charleroi and the Koning Boudewijn Stadium.
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