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Old April 20th, 2010, 06:09 PM   #501
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Estimated costs (contribution Dutch government):

Costs Nieuwe Kuip: 200 million Euro's ( 1/3 local government, 1/3 private investors, 1/3 banks/Feyenoord)

Costs expansion Amsterdam Arena: 75 million euro's

Costs expansion Abe Lenstra stadion: 40 million euro's

Costs expansion Grolsch Veste: 40 million euro's

Costs expansion Philips Stadion: 50 million euro's

These costs only includes the stadiums, infrastructural costs are not included

Total costs around 400 million euro's

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Old April 20th, 2010, 06:47 PM   #502
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Estimated costs:

Costs Nieuwe Kuip: 200 million Euro's ( 1/3 local government, 1/3 private investors, 1/3 banks/Feyenoord)

Costs expansion Amsterdam Arena: 75 million euro's

Costs expansion Abe Lenstra stadion: 40 million euro's

Costs expansion Grolsch Veste: 40 million euro's

Costs expansion Philips Stadion: 50 million euro's

These costs only includes the stadiums, infrastructural costs are not included

Total costs around 400 million euro's
You realy think a new kuip will only cost 200 millon, when Valencia is allready going up to 300 million with a smaller stadium then the new Kuip will be. Mark my wurds 500 million comes first.
They will never get it done, also because of bureaucratie and lack of infrastructure, and then I am not even talking about the financial part.
Our Belgium partners arenīt doing much better either.
Forget about it, we canīt even organize a proper cupfinal
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Old April 20th, 2010, 07:30 PM   #503
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For the Nieuwe Kuip they estimate about 600 million.

When something has to be done, it will be done. For the Olympic bid of Amsterdam 1992 they needed to fix the road infrastructure. The ringroad A10 was finished in 1990 because of a possible Olympic Games in 1992. The bid failed, but the construction of the infrastructure not.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 08:16 PM   #504
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For the Nieuwe Kuip they estimate about 600 million.

When something has to be done, it will be done. For the Olympic bid of Amsterdam 1992 they needed to fix the road infrastructure. The ringroad A10 was finished in 1990 because of a possible Olympic Games in 1992. The bid failed, but the construction of the infrastructure not.
Then I was īonlyī of about 100 million.
Mark my words, it canīt be done before 2018, maybe 2022.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 10:31 PM   #505
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For the Nieuwe Kuip they estimate about 600 million.
These are the figures Ab Klink told BNR radio and RTL, 400 million total costs all Dutch stadiums (including Nieuwe Kuip). These costs are the government's contribution

If the Nieuwe Kuip will cost 600 million, the government contribution for the Nieuwe Kuip will be 200 million Euro's ( as mentioned before 3 parties share each a third of the costs; 3x 200 million Euro's= 600 million Euro's)

But as always: estimated costs for big projects (remember NZ-lijn) are never correct

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Old April 27th, 2010, 01:33 AM   #506
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Concept of the new stadium in Bruges. This is not the definitive design.


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Old April 27th, 2010, 07:02 PM   #507
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Old April 29th, 2010, 03:37 PM   #509
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Both stadiums are from A&E Architecten (Dutch), the Charleroi stadium also.

These guys are really masters in innovating new stadiums
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Old May 14th, 2010, 08:50 PM   #510
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THE HOLLANDBELGIUM BID PRESENTS SEVEN GREAT GOALS
Friday 14 May, 2010

Great Goals magazineThe HollandBelgium Bid, the joint candidacy of Belgium and Holland for the FIFA World Cup, today presented seven Great Goals as part of its Bid Book. The Great Goals herald the contribution the HollandBelgium Bid will make to football, as well as to the people, society and the environment.

The Bid Book and a magazine which features the Great Goals and the ambassadors of the Bid were handed over to FIFA President Joseph S. Blatter by Ruud Gullit, Paul Van Himst and Johan Cruyff in Zurich today. The HollandBelgium Bid delegation, including co-chairmen Michael van Praag and Francois De Keersmaecker as well as CEO Harry Been, arrived at FIFA House by bicycle. The bicycle ride drew attention to the green ambitions of the Bid.

Bid President Ruud Gullit said: “EURO2000 is a showcase for a profitable tournament and a successful standard for joint organisation. Today we offer FIFA all the ingredients for a great football fiesta with a lasting legacy. A guarantee for success.”

1. Success guaranteed
Thanks to our experience with and expertise in organising major football tournaments and sport events, we can guarantee a successful tournament to the world. A tournament with world-class football, a great atmosphere and a profitable outcome.

The Low Countries form a duality. We demonstrate that a joint candidacy is more than feasible – EURO2000 is the example. With this we are an example for all other countries that would like to host a FIFA World Cup together.

A compact tournament in the heart of Europe. The next match is never far away.

2. Added impetus for the springboard of football talent
The Low Countries have developed themselves into springboards for top talent and top coaches for the major European competitions and national teams around the world. The FIFA World Cup is a necessary stimulus for our national competitions, which enable us to remain strong springboards. We will offer the world an insight into how we do this.

3. All of our 14 FIFA World Cup stadiums are green and sustainable
We offer the world a toolkit for sustainable stadiums.

Thanks to newly developed guidance for sustainable stadiums, the HollandBelgium Bid is a pioneer in creating stadiums that are green beyond imagination. To ensure this, countless new concepts and techniques are being applied. Named the Sustainable Stadium Toolkit, we offer this to the football world.

4. Open Football Clubs as centres of our community
Commitment by the Low Countries to install 2.018 or 2022 Open Football Clubs within eight years.
The Open Football Clubs model will be made available to other countries.

The Low Countries enjoy a special club culture. We will use this to build a unique network of Open Football Clubs, which will operate as multifunctional centres in communities, villages and cities.

The basis of these new-style clubs is health, respect and education, thereby tackling relevant issues in society.

All existing social community initiatives, under the umbrella of the Open Football Club name, will receive an enormous boost by hosting the FIFA World Cup. This enables us to realise our ambition to install 2018 or 2022 Open Football Clubs.

5. We educate 2018 or 2022 WorldCoaches worldwide
Through a specially developed programme called WorldCoaches, the HollandBelgium Bid supports the education and development of trainers and other key figures within clubs in developing countries. Up to 2018 or we can train 2018 or 2022 coaches through WorldCoaches – a clear commitment by the HollandBelgium Bid.

WorldCoaches does not only focus on football skills, coaching and organisation, but also on the development of so-called life skills.

During a FIFA World Cup in the Low Countries we offer a special Train the Trainer programme, based on the WorldCoaches approach.

6. The most sustainable FIFA World Cup ever
Our compactness dramatically reduces the need for transport during the tournament. Together with a set of new eco-measurements, The HollandBelgium Bid guarantees a FIFA World Cup with an environmental impact that is 50% lower.

We have an Environment Protection Plan in place which gives centre stage to optimised public transport and 2 million free bicycles.

We have created a unique World Cup Ecological Footprint – a new method to measure the ecological impact of a major football event. Thanks to this instrument we know that we will ‘save’ 50% on the environment. We will offer this concept to FIFA.

7. World-class football in a great atmosphere.
Football fans can expect a dream holiday when visiting a FIFA World Cup in the Low Countries. Fans can enjoy world-class football in a fantastic atmosphere which has so much to offer. Cities, beaches, culinary delights, shopping.

The Low Countries are laidback and have supporters who create a wonderful atmosphere. The entire world will feel at home.

Our compactness is an advantage. Stadiums are always close. Fans, players, officials and media feel the advantage of short travel times, which means more time to enjoy.

A FIFA World Cup in the Low Countries will be a football fiesta that is unmatched.
Source: Official Website
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Old May 14th, 2010, 08:52 PM   #511
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Proposed expansion of PSV stadium in Eindhoven, the capital city of the WC if it will be in the Benelux.

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Eindelijk serieuze impressies van het Philips Stadion na uitbreiding:

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Na deze uitbreiding komt het aantal zitplaatsen op 44.000
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Old May 18th, 2010, 04:07 PM   #512
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Old May 19th, 2010, 01:10 AM   #513
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Where and how did you find this picture ?
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Old May 19th, 2010, 01:35 AM   #514
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They uploaded a Bid Book (but you must register to enter the site). Look at the Bid site.
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Old May 19th, 2010, 03:51 PM   #515
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Old May 19th, 2010, 04:13 PM   #516
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I feel embaressed that they put the olympic stadium in it... a stadium with a track and just 43k capacity, thats not worth a world cup match. Why not leave the amsterdam arena as it is (52k) and build a complete new stadium with 65k (olympic?)

To bad Groningen is not in the bid
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Old May 19th, 2010, 04:27 PM   #517
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For possible Olympic Games they would build a complete new stadium. They want to use the old Olympic Stadium for another sports event prior to the WC (European Athletics Championships). This will be a temporary expansion. They haven't made a final design, so we don't know how it will look like. They and we know only that it is technical possible. For the long term this is better.
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Old May 19th, 2010, 07:40 PM   #518
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Haha nice to see that the new kuip will have 82 800 cap. Also they are finaly building a new stadium in Antwerp, Brugge and Liege...
I see the Arteveld stadium will extend before itīs even build and the Olympic stadium is the top of the cream.
This bidbook is a joke and a complete waste of time.
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Old May 19th, 2010, 07:47 PM   #519
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The Olympic Stadium will not be hosting an actual WC-game it is a kind of back-up stadium (just like the old Kuip in Rotterdam). The picture showed above is one of the two pre-designs.
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Old May 20th, 2010, 12:26 PM   #520
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They should have taken the other option for the Olympic Stadium on the picture.
The upper one looks (in my humble opinion) definitely better than the one below:
[IMG]http://i33.************/rliyw4.jpg[/IMG]
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