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Old May 22nd, 2010, 12:39 AM   #521
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They should have taken the other option for the Olympic Stadium on the picture.
The upper one looks (in my humble opinion) definitely better than the one below:
[IMG]http://i33.************/rliyw4.jpg[/IMG]
Seriously, that they even dare to provide that lower image for a bid...
Upper design looks 10x more solid then that crap.

As a Dutch guy i hope off course that we will be the ones to host 2018/2022 but if you come with such crappy designs it is just a waste of time!
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 01:47 AM   #522
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Well its actually not a design, because there isnt a finished design yet. Its just as an impression and to show what is possible.
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 02:53 AM   #523
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Het grote probleem met het Olympisch Stadion is dat het een monumentale status heeft. Je mag er dus niks aan slopen en het ontwerp mag niet aanzienlijk worden veranderd. Het Olympisch Stadion zou bij de oorspronkelijke bid helemaal niet gebruikt worden. Groningen en Alkmaar zouden in eerste instantie ook kandidaat-steden worden met ieder een 40k + stadion. De gemeenteraad van Groningen en de DSB-affaire/gemeente Alkmaar besliste echter anders. Hierdoor is er te weinig tijd geweest om met een fatsoenlijke ontwerp te komen.

Ik vind ook dat je niet met zo'n lachwekkend ontwerp kunt aankomen maar vergeet niet dat het Olympisch stadion niet gebruikt gaat worden. (de Fifa eist minimaal 12 officiële WK-steden en 2 reserve-stadions)

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Old May 22nd, 2010, 02:57 AM   #524
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Benelux = BElgium - NEtherlands - LUXembourg right

but where is stadium in Luxembourg?
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 03:19 AM   #525
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Benelux = BElgium - NEtherlands - LUXembourg right

but where is stadium in Luxembourg?
Only belgium and netherlands. So no benelux.
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 04:00 PM   #526
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Only belgium and netherlands. So no benelux.
The money will be stored in a bankaccount at Luxemburg.
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 04:34 PM   #527
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Luxembourg could be the neutral city/nation, in that it holds the WC draws (both), houses 1 or 2 teams and the crowning glory, perhaps using funds left over a new 20,000 seater or so stadium, not only to serve the visiting teams making Luxembourg their homes during the WC, but also host a few pre WC friendlies?
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 06:27 PM   #528
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When you look at the Bid book it's nice to see that it's a realistic plan...
but if it's impressive enough to convince the Fifa...?
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 09:18 PM   #529
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Luxembourg could be the neutral city/nation, in that it holds the WC draws (both), houses 1 or 2 teams and the crowning glory, perhaps using funds left over a new 20,000 seater or so stadium, not only to serve the visiting teams making Luxembourg their homes during the WC, but also host a few pre WC friendlies?
Luxemburg has nothing to do with this bid -_- If only because a 3-way bid would probably never pass & they wouldn't lux automatically qualify

Why would Luxemburg be included in this bid when it doesn't has/need a stadium. We can easily do it with BE & NL.
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 09:39 PM   #530
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When you look at the Bid book it's nice to see that it's a realistic plan...
but if it's impressive enough to convince the Fifa...?
I don't think so.

The costs are a very low estimate. To low. 200m for a 80.000 stadium? Look at wembley, look at the stadiums in Germany. No way that the 400m will be enough for the government.
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 10:50 PM   #531
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This bid has two hopes, no hope and bob hope
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 10:51 PM   #532
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Benelux = BElgium - NEtherlands - LUXembourg right

but where is stadium in Luxembourg?
The name Benelux?

Belgium and the Netherlands are part of the Benelux Union. The members of the Benelux parliament in Brussels has an advisory role for Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg. Because of these Union since 1955, the countries can work very efficiently as one nation.

Blatter was very unsatisfied with co-hosting of Japan and S. Korea in 2002. Because Japan and S. Korea had their own separate organization. Belgium and the Netherlands have the advantage to organize an event as one nation.

In 2009 the Benelux parliament already said to want to invest in the wc2018 tournament. So this include Luxembourg as well. Luxembourg doesn't have a impresive football stadium infrastructure but I think they aiming on tourist visiting the Benelux countries. After all the Benelux is a small union were distance are very short to travel.
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Old May 24th, 2010, 04:42 PM   #533
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I don't think so.

The costs are a very low estimate. To low. 200m for a 80.000 stadium? Look at wembley, look at the stadiums in Germany. No way that the 400m will be enough for the government.
You have to read better... but still you are probably right at the end.
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Old May 24th, 2010, 06:18 PM   #534
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You have to read better... but still you are probably right at the end.
You are pointing at the private investements I guess. I also counted them in in my thinking.
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Old May 25th, 2010, 12:28 AM   #535
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Haha nice to see that the new kuip will have 82 800 cap. Also they are finaly building a new stadium in Antwerp, Brugge and Liege...
I see the Arteveld stadium will extend before itīs even build and the Olympic stadium is the top of the cream.
This bidbook is a joke and a complete waste of time.
drawingbook infrastructure is quit common for bids.
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Old May 25th, 2010, 04:17 PM   #536
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It's probably already mentionned a lot but which ones of those will be built even if we don't get the World Cup? (I know it's hard to say at this moment but just the ones that are 95-100% sure)

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Old May 25th, 2010, 10:26 PM   #537
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It's probably already mentionned a lot but which ones of those will be built even if we don't get the World Cup? (I know it's hard to say at this moment but just the ones that are 95-100% sure)
In that case, the stadium renewal will continue in Belgium, but on a smaller scale.
The project in Bruges is imo the only project that will continue, even without hosting the WC.
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Old May 25th, 2010, 10:49 PM   #538
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In that case, the stadium renewal will continue in Belgium, but on a smaller scale.
The project in Bruges is imo the only project that will continue, even without hosting the WC.
Also the expansion of Sclessin (Ličge) doesn't depend on the possible WC in the Benelux.
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Old May 25th, 2010, 11:49 PM   #539
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It's probably already mentionned a lot but which ones of those will be built even if we don't get the World Cup? (I know it's hard to say at this moment but just the ones that are 95-100% sure)
With no WC 2018 in the Netherlands these plans are official:

Amsterdam Arena: expansion to 55.000
Nieuwe Kuip: New stadium 70.000/80.000 or less
Grolsch Veste: expansion to 32.000 (this year)
Abe Lenstra Stadion: expansion to 32.000 (2011)
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Old May 26th, 2010, 12:23 AM   #540
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ok thx!
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