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Old May 26th, 2010, 04:37 PM   #541
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With no WC 2018 in the Netherlands these plans are official:

*1 Amsterdam Arena: expansion to 55.000
*2 Nieuwe Kuip: New stadium 70.000/80.000 or less
*3 Grolsch Veste: expansion to 32.000 (this year)
*4 Abe Lenstra Stadion: expansion to 32.000 (2011)
*1 Is that beeing done by closing the corners or something? Love to see more info.
*2 I thought it was minimum 80 000 and expandable (to 106 000.)
*3 starting in September I believe, strange date by the way.
*4 You have noticed any movement yet?
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Old May 26th, 2010, 08:03 PM   #542
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It's probably already mentionned a lot but which ones of those will be built even if we don't get the World Cup? (I know it's hard to say at this moment but just the ones that are 95-100% sure)
The one in Ghent will be built anyway, they'll probably start after the summer.

It will only be a 22k stadium, the other 22k will only be build temporarily for the WC2018.
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Old May 26th, 2010, 08:41 PM   #543
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*1 Is that beeing done by closing the corners or something? Love to see more info.
*2 I thought it was minimum 80 000 and expandable (to 106 000.)
*3 starting in September I believe, strange date by the way.
*4 You have noticed any movement yet?
*1 The Amsterdam Arena will expand the first tier by lowering the stands to the pitch (overlapping the transportation shafts/"gracht" which will still be open for transport), about the corners: 2 corners will be closed permanently and 2 corners will be closed with moving stands (similar to Euro 2000) this is still "on hold" because less wind could have a negative effect on the pitch. I don't expect any movement this summer (maybe some extra stands close to the pitch. It all depends on Fifa's verdict (do you accept Russian roubles ?) in december...

*2 The New Kuip will only expand to 80.000 or more if the Netherlands/Belgium WC 2018 will be successful in their bid. Losing the bid will have an affect on the actual capacity because the budget to build the new stadium will certainly decrease. The city council of Rotterdam will decide after december 2010 how/what/when and how much

*3 The Grolsch Veste expansion to 32.000:


*4 Abe Lenstra Stadion: Heerenveen could start with the expansion of the West Side of the stadium in september 2010 but they did n't because of practical reasons (season planning) new start date is spring 2011

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Old May 27th, 2010, 12:48 PM   #544
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*1 That´s nice with Ajax that they are going to close the gap, which is big at this moment, to the pitch. Groningen did that also in a nice way.
*2 Feyenoord minimum 80 000 with pos.expansion to enormus...
*3 Fc Twente is going to look good. I wunder, WC or not, when they will do the final expansion. It looks not finished, though allright. They will get there I think.
*4 SC Heerenveen, you have some more info about how it is going to look when expanded to 32 000?

Thanks for the info.
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New clip of the PSV Eindhoven Philips stadium expansion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0Q5P...layer_embedded
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Old May 28th, 2010, 10:37 AM   #546
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[QUOTE=Belxos;57566849]The one in Ghent will be built anyway, they'll probably start after the summer.
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... you´re sure?

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Old May 29th, 2010, 06:16 PM   #547
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Any pics of Amsterdam ArenA expansion?
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I have not seen any recent good renders of the possible expansion of the Amsterdam ArenA. Hopefully we will see some of them soon.
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Old May 30th, 2010, 06:04 PM   #549
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The same render of the expanded Amsterdam ArenA but a bit bigger.

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Old June 19th, 2010, 06:47 PM   #550
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Orange convoy overruns South African roads

An orange convoy made up of 175 camper vans, cars, buses and trucks departed from the Orange Camp Site in Fountains Valley, Pretoria, heading for Durban on Wednesday morning amid great interest from the international press. The roofs of all the vehicles were festooned with stickers with The HollandBelgium Bid logo.

The colourful procession carried 750 people 640 kilometres to the next Orange Camp Site set up in the Bluff Eco Park. The N14 motorway was closed off especially for the convoy and the Dutch, South African and international press assembled along the route to report on the 175 vehicles. Take a look at the helicopter footage of the convoy on The HollandBelgium Bid’s YouTube channel.

The Netherlands will be playing its second FIFA World Cup™ match against Japan in Durban on 19 June. On 20 June, the convoy will then head down to Cape Town, the Dutch team’s next venue.
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A little list for you guys


The Holland Belgium Bid
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STADIUMS

[IMG]http://i38.************/xojz14.jpg[/IMG]

Netherlands

HEERENVEEN - Abe Lenstra Stadion - 26.100



World Cup capacity: 44.000


ENSCHEDE - De Grolsch Veste - 24.000



World Cup capacity: 44.000


EINDHOVEN - Philips Stadion - 35.000



World Cup capacity: 44.000/45.000
[IMG]http://i50.************/2z5j29h.jpg[/IMG]

AMSTERDAM - Amsterdam ArenA - 51.628



World Cup capacity: 65.000 - 85.000
[IMG]http://i48.************/k37w5v.jpg[/IMG]

AMSTERDAM - Olympisch Stadion - 22.288



World Cup capacity: 44.000


ROTTERDAM - De Kuip - 51.577



No expansion since a new stadium will be built next to it.

ROTTERDAM - Nieuwe Kuip - 85.000



This stadium hasn't been constructed yet. There also isn't an official render for the stadion.
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Belgium

BRUGGE - Stadion Brugge - 40.000



This stadium hasn't been constructed yet.

GENT - Arteveldestadion - 21.000



World Cup capacity: 44.000
This stadium hasn't been constructed yet.

ANTWERPEN - Eurostadion/Metropoolstadion - 25.000



World Cup capacity: 40.000
This stadion hasn't been constructed yet.

GENK - Cristal Arena - 24.604



World Cup capacity: 45.000


BRUSSEL - Nationaal Stadion - 65.000

[IMG]http://i50.************/xc965e.jpg[/IMG]

This stadium hasn't been constructed yet.

LUIK - ???? - ????



World Cup capacity: unkown

CHARLEROI - ???? - ????



World Cup capacity: unkown
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Old June 20th, 2010, 12:34 PM   #552
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I don't like so much this bid.

Starting from Enschede to Heerenveen are more stadia for a Euro competition than a WC.

Could be interesting new stadia in Rotterdam and in Bruxelles, and fantastic, like always Amsterdam Arena, but these stadia can't be compared to Germany 2006 or Korea/Japan 2002 ones.
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Old June 28th, 2010, 04:42 PM   #553
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Old June 28th, 2010, 04:51 PM   #554
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Rotterdam 82,000
Brussels 80,000
Amsterdam 62,000

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Old July 2nd, 2010, 07:40 PM   #555
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So the Netherlands knocks off Brazil 2-1. Wonder if a Netherlands victory boosts their campaign for 2018? In theory that not only bolsters local enthusiasm but adds a wee bit more credence in the world's eyes: "If the nation is capable of winning a trophy then surely they're up for being more than able hosts, right?" At the least, this good run solidifies the perception that they're as enthusiastic a nation as England, Spain or Brazil, methinks.

I'm also being won over by the fact that this bid would rate highly in terms of bona fide legacy and re-use of venues. True, same applies for England and Spain, but this would be seen as a nice gesture by FIFA to recognize the efforts of Netherlands/Belgium. Though the venues might be smaller on average compared to their European peers, it also guarantees we won't be seeing empty seats on the TV broadcasts and that the stadiums would remain near-ideal fits for the local teams. I can see Enshede and Heerenveen regularly drawing in the 30's. At the least, this would feel, to me, like FIFA would be getting more return-on-investment in terms of making an impact on the local game when compared with England or the Iberian bid.

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Old July 2nd, 2010, 09:52 PM   #556
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A world cup win will give it a boost, but how big a boost is questionable. Italy won the World Cup months before UEFA decided to overlook them in favour of Ukraine/Poland for Euro 2012. A team's success on the pitch may not have quite the impact some would hope.
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Well in the angle I'm going for the situations aren't compatible. Italy's brand is well established and they're viewed as a stable soccer entity: Outside investment in their infrastructure and exposure is unlikely to significantly impact their local league and/or the national team. Not so with regards to Belgium and Netherlands, for while footie fanatics know of Ajax, Brugge, Clockwork Orange, etc, they're hardly viewed globally as in the same tier as Italian teams. Give each league and national team an extra push with a FIFA event and you might actually build something, particularly as non-traditional powers like Enschede become even more able to stand with the traditional powers. Hardly a difference maker in this bidding process, but in terms of the mythical "legacy" factor from FIFA's perspective this feels like the most viable European option. Russia still seems too far a reach, IMO.

A little boost, but a boost nonetheless.
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Old July 3rd, 2010, 10:58 PM   #558
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A world cup win will give it a boost, but how big a boost is questionable. Italy won the World Cup months before UEFA decided to overlook them in favour of Ukraine/Poland for Euro 2012. A team's success on the pitch may not have quite the impact some would hope.
If we would win the WC that certainly would help. But it will not be a decisive factor imho. Nevertheless the Dutch WC-2010 performance will not do the bid any harm.
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Visit of FIFA in Belgium

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August 10, 2010


Bid ambassadors Justine Henin, Jean-Marie Pfaff and Paul van Himst welcomed the FIFA inspection team led by Chilean FA president Harold Mayne-Nicholls at the Brussels Expo-Atomium on Monday

(WFI) FIFA inspectors are meeting with Belgian Prime Minister Yves Leterme today as part of their evaluation of the Holland-Belgium 2018 World Cup bid.

Leterme, who will step down when a new coalition government forms, is expected to offer reassurances about the cross-party support for the bid in Belgium in his 90-minute meeting with the six-man FIFA team.

His reassurances follow concerns voiced by two leading Belgian politicians last week, who questioned whether FIFA should be granted tax-free status and allowed to make certain marketing demands on organisers. Bid officials brushed aside the claims, stressing that no legislation would be changed specifically for FIFA and a World Cup.

FIFA inspectors began Tuesday with a presentation by Brussels authorities about their plans for a new 80,000-seat national stadium.

The Holland-Belgium bid includes 12 host stadia; five in the Netherlands and seven in Belgium where several new venues would be built.

After FIFA's meeting with Leterme, delegates will tour a proposed World Cup training site at Tempo Overijse and later a team base camp, Chateau du Lac.

The commission will then travel to Antwerp where members will be briefed about the city's new stadium along with transport and mobility plans for a World Cup.

The FIFA inspection team arrived in Belgium yesterday, the first stop in Europe on its two-month tour of the nine bidders for the 2018 and 2022 World Cup following visits to Australia, Korea and Japan.

On his arrival, delegation chairman Harold Mayne-Nicholls said he was hoping to get many new ideas that could be of benefit to the entire football world.

Henin says bid embraces "whole world"
Belgian tennis player Justine Henin was among the bid ambassadors who made speeches on Monday.

"It’s no secret that I am a big football fan - I admit, I’m an Anderlecht fan. One and a half years ago I was one of the first ambassadors of the Holland-Belgium Bid, because I would really love to have the FIFA World Cup here in 2018 or 2022," she said in her address to FIFA inspectors.

"A World Cup in Belgium and the Netherlands would be an economically good thing for our countries and is a tremendous boost for our sports; not only for football, but for all sports.

The former world No.1 tennis player added: "We don’t want to organize the World Cup just for ourselves, but we’d like to include the whole world. We can give all members of the FIFA delegation a look behind the scenes and expand the soccer programs like 'World Coaches' and the Africa project in collaboration with SOS Children's Villages.

During their stay, she said FIFA delegates would "get an idea of the vast experience of both countries in organizing major events such as Euro 2000, U-17 and U-21 European Championships and the U-20 world championships" and learn of the "enormous ambition our countries have for organizing a very successful FIFA World Cup in 2018 or 2022".

On Wednesday, FIFA inspectors will visit stadiums in Eindhoven, Rotterdam and Amsterdam, discussing bid plans with the mayors of each city.

A meeting with Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende and sports minister Ab Klink is scheduled to take place
in the Hague in the afternoon.

Further briefings take place on Thursday before the FIFA evaluation trip concludes with a press conference at Ajax's Amsterdam Arena where Mayne-Nicholls will make a closing statement. Bid president Ruud Gullit and CEO Harry Been will be available to answer questions from reporters.



By INSIDER editor Mark Bisson
Even if there some critics about this bid from politics:

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By Raf Casert (CP) – Aug 3, 2010

BRUSSELS — Some Belgian politicians are questioning the conditions under which FIFA wants the World Cup to be organized, only days before the arrival of inspectors to assess the Belgium-Netherlands bid for the 2018 or 2022 tournament.

The leader of the LDD party and a top socialist politician both questioned whether FIFA should be granted tax-free status during the World Cup and be allowed to impose marketing rules around stadiums. Several Belgian media joined in the criticism.

On Monday, a FIFA delegation starts a four-day tour through Belgium and the Netherlands to inspect stadiums and other World Cup infrastructure.

The Belgium-Netherlands bid team says organizing the World Cup will boost the credibility and produce a profit for each nation. Both Belgium and the Netherlands have caretaker governments at the moment that have previously backed the World Cup bid. It is unclear what the position of the new governments will be.

Some critics are unhappy with the all-powerful position of FIFA in staging the World Cup and its ability to make demands on organizers to accommodate the biggest single-sport event in the world.

"FIFA rules over the world and seems to have in every country privileges that are denied to others," said senator Bert Anciaux of the SP.A socialist party.

He said it should be unthinkable during the current economic crisis to give world football's governing body tax privileges.

Anciaux was joined by the LDD leader Jean-Marie De Decker in criticizing any possible taxation leeway. And he insisted that any government backing of the World Cup go through parliament first.

Nine candidates are seeking to host the World Cup in 2018 or 2022. Beyond Belgium and the Netherlands, Europe also has bids from Spain-Portugal, Russia and England.

FIFA, which earns 95 per cent of its income from the World Cup, collected at least US$3.2 billion in television, marketing, licensing and hospitality deals from the 2007-10 South Africa World Cup cycle. The exact figures and profit will be revealed next March in the 2010 financial report.

It has budgeted for $3.8 billion for the 2011-14 World Cup cycle.

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AP Sports Writer Graham Dunbar in Geneva contributed to this article.

Copyright © 2010 The Canadian Press. All rights reserved.

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Old August 11th, 2010, 10:42 PM   #560
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it is the worst bid i have ever seen

Stadiums are just awful amazing!!

I prefer england bid it's more serious! Benelux has to work better. Good for a euro championship not for a world cup
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