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Old September 4th, 2010, 09:17 PM   #581
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All the governments support the bid, so what's the problem?
Maybe the political situation?
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Old September 5th, 2010, 01:33 AM   #582
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I think that the Holland and Belgium have the best chance.

England: Tried to bribe some FIFA-members.
Russia: Long distances.
USA: They had the World Championships already in 1994, bad atmosphere.
Spain/Portugal: Bad state finances, hot, the FIFA declared that they don't want a double candidature if one of those countries could do it by itself.

The only problem in the HollandBelgiumBid is the dissension in Belgium between Flanders and Wallonia.
very strong accusation that on england evidence?
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Old September 5th, 2010, 07:18 PM   #583
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very strong accusation that on england evidence?
Look at this: http://www.voetbalzone.nl/doc.asp?uid=89664

I'm sorry that it's Dutch - English websites don't report about this scandal.
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Old September 5th, 2010, 07:35 PM   #584
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Many, many English websites reported this actually but it was getting on for a year ago and was already discussed at the time on this forum. It won't unduly harm England's bid and is a speck in the history of this bidding process now. It certainly doesn't harm England's bid to the extent where Holland/Belgium is now the favourite, despite your hopes to the contrary.

Furthmore, Warner is an idiot, a criminal and no person to be in such a powerful position at FIFA. Given that he, and his family,owe $750,000 in fines to FIFA after the last scandal they were involved in, I'd find it a bit rich being lectured by him on keeping families out of FIFA business and keeping everything above board.

The only scandal is that our bid, your bid, and every other world cup bid has to suck up to this horrible man because, despite being involved in three financial scandals at FIFA, he still has a vote on the executive committee.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Wa...l_executive%29

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Old September 10th, 2010, 03:03 PM   #585
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I hope for Netherlands Belgium 2018 and Australia 2022.
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Old September 11th, 2010, 01:14 PM   #586
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when you see the actual belgian politic situation i think it is safe to say that this bid must be retired!

it's just scandalous to give to a non unified region such a spectacular event! Fifa must ban this bid!!!
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Old September 11th, 2010, 01:58 PM   #587
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Furthmore, Warner is an idiot, a criminal and no person to be in such a powerful position at FIFA. Given that he, and his family,owe $750,000 in fines to FIFA after the last scandal they were involved in, I'd find it a bit rich being lectured by him on keeping families out of FIFA business and keeping everything above board.

The only scandal is that our bid, your bid, and every other world cup bid has to suck up to this horrible man because, despite being involved in three financial scandals at FIFA, he still has a vote on the executive committee.
This is a bit off topic, but if the USA loses out on 2022, I'd bet it will have something to do with Warner and most people's disdain for him. Until he's out of there, North America may just be spinning their wheels on any bid.
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Old September 11th, 2010, 02:31 PM   #588
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The only scandal is that our bid, your bid, and every other world cup bid has to suck up to this horrible man because, despite being involved in three financial scandals at FIFA, he still has a vote on the executive committee.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Wa...l_executive%29
I guess you are right about that.

The bid itself is still a very good one imho. But it is not the only very good bid out there. And the possible political developments in Belgium (and at present we in The Netherlands are also struggeling to form a new government) are not a big help to "our" bid.

But the FIFA is sometimes a very unpredictable organisation. So who knows with what kind of a surprise they will draw attention to them on December 2nd?
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Old September 11th, 2010, 02:36 PM   #589
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I certainly wouldn't be against a Dutch/Belgian world cup. I think if England fails to win it's the bid I'd like to see succeeding in our place. The whole bid has been carried off with such good humour and friendliness its hard not to warm to it.
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Old September 12th, 2010, 06:13 AM   #590
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I certainly wouldn't be against a Dutch/Belgian world cup. I think if England fails to win it's the bid I'd like to see succeeding in our place. The whole bid has been carried off with such good humour and friendliness its hard not to warm to it.
Yep-this bid would definitely organise a wonderful world cup
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 02:53 PM   #591
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you suggesting the Benelux bid may be pulling a "Steven Bradbury"?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMa_R...eature=related
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Old October 24th, 2010, 05:53 PM   #593
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Come to Netherlands, get Goals!

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Old October 24th, 2010, 06:36 PM   #594
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Haha, today is the game PSV-Feyenoord played by us in the Netherlands.
Final score: 10-0!!!
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Old November 1st, 2010, 11:46 AM   #595
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 10:05 AM   #596
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This bid has no chance at all. The Dutch government (and the Belgian as well I think) will not allow FIFA to rule their country with their absurd demands (FIFA demands to not having to pay any taxes among other things). This basically means that FIFA cannot make a huge profit here like they did in RSA (while the local population is starving) and will in Brazil and Russia or England.
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 04:51 PM   #597
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Well it was eventually not about taxes, but about not giving immunity to the FIFA members and basic rules for larbor. The demands of the FIFA are also in conflict with some EU regulations and treaties. A big chance that the England and Spain/Portugal bid have the same things/problems, but not in the big news. Normally these things are not made public in advance.
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 05:03 PM   #598
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And these didn't affect Germany 2006?
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 05:05 PM   #599
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Rumour has it that BeNe will do a Qatar by projecting sixteen semi-modular stadiums in Luxembourg and use Belgium and The Netherlands to improve infrastructure etc.

After 2018 the stadiums will be dismantled, only to be re-erected in third world football countries such as Qatar as part of a global developing scheme.
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The evaluation report:

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