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Old March 9th, 2008, 05:13 PM   #181
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Station Herrengasse is in the 1st. Maybe you are confusing?

Good videos Norbb, you can clearly hear the metro with the best closing-door-sound I know!
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Old March 10th, 2008, 10:17 AM   #182
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I did not like this line when I was in Vienna in January.
I did not feel very safe at all - probably compounded by having a very limited knowledge of the language.

The line seemed to be packed with people affected by drugs.
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Old March 10th, 2008, 10:40 AM   #183
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I did not like this line when I was in Vienna in January.
I did not feel very safe at all - probably compounded by having a very limited knowledge of the language.

The line seemed to be packed with people affected by drugs.
Oh c'mon. I know for a fact that Melbourne's trams are used by the drunk and disorderly and so are the trains! Are you trying to say that you've never seen similar situations in Melbourne?! There are also many worrying incidencies of attacks at train stations in Melbourne due to the lack of CCTV at many of them.
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Old March 11th, 2008, 01:51 AM   #184
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U6 unsafe?
Never seen a single incident there...
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Old March 11th, 2008, 03:42 PM   #185
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Anyone got some pictures of the USTRAB/Underground Tramway/Premetro? I just love it, especially Nr 18 from Westbahnhof to Südbahnhof is a great connection. I just wish it was renovated in a more friendly way, plus it needs more escalators. In certain stations it's a pain in the ass to carry your luggage up and down the stairways...

Wouldn't that be a project for you, Bahnsteig4? Taking photos of all USTRAB stations?

Or photos of S45 Stations? Would love to see them all
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Old March 13th, 2008, 12:08 AM   #186
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Thanks rheintram. It was an excellent idea for a short recreative visit after work - and it helped testing my new camera in darker conditions.

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Old March 13th, 2008, 01:09 AM   #187
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Wow, thanks a lot Norbb! Finally the USTRAB get's the recognition it deserves! If the station buildings would be refurbished and modernized I'm sure it would become more attractive. Plus certain lines should be put on the U-BAHN map, such as N° 18, which is the fastest connection between Westbahnhof and Südbahnhof.
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Old March 13th, 2008, 01:27 AM   #188
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Central Europe is generally a very safe area and Vienna especially, despite being a huge city. People that use public transport represent the whole width of society, there are the rich, the middle class and the poor. However I have never encountered a situation where I felt particularily unsafe in Vienna's underground. Despite the fact that there are drunk and drugged people (though I claim only the small minority of all passengers), just like in any other city too.

What I like about U6/Stadtbahn is its history. I love the Jugendstil architecture and the elevated tracks. And I like that there is mostly no roof above your head, so you sometimes can enjoy the view or just look at the life going on outside.
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What you could be concerned about is pick-pocketing. Criminal organizations from Romania, Moldova, etc. see Vienna as their closest target "market".

BTW, I can't recall anyone ever stating that Vienna is a "huge city".
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It's a big city. But not huge. Mumbai, Sao Paulo and Tokyo are huge
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Thx for the video. I never take the USTRAB but it looks kind of interesting.
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Oh, yes... USTRABA rulez.
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Mmh... agreed.
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U6 extension North direction



good idea? what do you think?
Prager Straße would be a very good option too.
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good idea? what do you think?
Prager Straße would be a very good option too.
How long does it take for the Bim to get from Stammersdorf to Floridsdorf?
How large would be the potential of customers? (those who can be acquired additionally in comparision to status quo?
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I'm against it. U6 is already overstrained. With any extension it would become even worse. And the way traffic policy in vienna works, any tram/bus lines along the way would be shut down, causing even more traffic on the U6 and making access ways for passengers a lot longer.

The only interesting plan for an extension I know is connection U6 with WLB. So Trains could go directly from U6 on the WLB line to SCS. While the new WLB and the U6 T cars are almost the same, there are some differences which could cause trouble. T are broader and WLB 400 have only few doors, which would be problematic on U6.
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It's such a pity that a part of the USTRAB was turned into U2. Tramway (Stadtbahn) with underground sections are way more flexible, cheaper and effictive.
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I'm against it. U6 is already overstrained. With any extension it would become even worse. And the way traffic policy in vienna works, any tram/bus lines along the way would be shut down, causing even more traffic on the U6 and making access ways for passengers a lot longer.

The only interesting plan for an extension I know is connection U6 with WLB. So Trains could go directly from U6 on the WLB line to SCS. While the new WLB and the U6 T cars are almost the same, there are some differences which could cause trouble. T are broader and WLB 400 have only few doors, which would be problematic on U6.
Well if demand out there would justify it (what I doubt however) I would be in favor of it.

If the capacity on the U6 would reach a maximum, one could maybe think about reopening of Tram lines there again maybe, not necessarily in direct competition to the U6 but for establishing cross connections that take passangers away from the U6 and also could speed up the cross connections
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IMHO the overcrowding in the U6 has much to do with the missing link between the central part of the U6 and the center. The future U5 with transfer at Alser Strasse would relieve much of the traffic.

I know that there are like 7 tramway routes connecting the Gürtel to the Ring, but look around - many people ignore them as a competitive form of transport. Thats how most of the U6->U3 mass migration at Westbahnhof with the center as destination is fed.
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