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Old November 8th, 2008, 08:13 PM   #381
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Those pics remind me of my last (and up to now the only) visit to Vienna. I would have problems in trying to imagine a city with more personality and "charm" than the austrian capital.

By the way, great system and very useful to get around the city.
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Old November 8th, 2008, 08:26 PM   #382
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Next year in Vienna will be UITP's congress "Public transport: making the right mobility choices".

Check this out: http://www.uitp.org/vienna2009/
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Old November 9th, 2008, 09:56 AM   #383
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No, they don't.
But older trams and older U6 kind of look similar, you're right!
How can you tell an old tram form an old U6?
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Old November 9th, 2008, 03:06 PM   #384
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Old generation U6

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New generation U6 (yet, there is a newer one)

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Old November 9th, 2008, 09:25 PM   #385
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OK, since there seems to be a little confusion and there hasn't been much specific information about trains and operational stuff in this thread, I've compiled a little over view of all tram and subway trains.

TRAMS

The classic one...
Type E1

Manufactured:
1966-1976

Number of trainsets (as of Nov 2008):
217

Pax number:
105 (40 seated/65 standing)

Length:
20.3m

Weight:
23.3 tons

Built by:
Bombardier-Rotax/Lohner (100 pcs), SGP (236)

Lines:
O, 1, 2, 5, 6, 9, 10, 18, 26, 30, 31, 33, 37, 42, 43, 44, 46, 49, 52, 58, 62

Pics:














...these trains are either operated on their own or together with either...

Type c3

Manufactured:
1954-1962 (!!!)

Number of trainsets (as of Nov 2008):
82

Pax number:
75 (32 seated/43 standing)

Length:
14.7m

Weight:
11.6 tons

Built by:
Lohner (190 pcs)

Lines:
O, 1, 2, 5, 6, 18, 26, 30, 31, 46, 49, 52, 58, 62

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...or with the newer...


Type c3

Main difference: three double doors, interior updated to match E1.

Manufactured:
1974-1977

Number of trainsets (as of Nov 2008):
73

Pax number:
74 (31 seated/43 standing)

Length:
14.7m

Weight:
11.5 tons

Built by:
Bombardier (73 pcs)

Lines:
1, 2, 5, 18, 26, 30, 31, 43, 46, 49, 52, 58, 62

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Old November 9th, 2008, 09:38 PM   #386
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TRAMS (2)

Type E2

Essentially they are updated and only marginally redesigned E1s. A little more box-shaped and using hideous yellow plastic instead of wood for the interior. Additionally they feature one more (foldable) doorstep.

Manufactured:
1978-1990

Number of trainsets (as of Nov 2008):
121

Pax number:
102 (44 seated/58 standing)

Length:
19.095m

Weight:
24.5 tons

Built by:
Bombardier-Rotax(24 pcs), SGP (98)

Lines:
D, 6, 18, 37, 38, 40, 41, 52, 58, 60, 62, 67, 71

Pics:
















Like the E1s these trains can either be operated on their own or with their specific second car, the...


Type c5

Manufactured:
1966-1976

Number of trainsets (as of Nov 2008):
117

Pax number:
71 (32 seated/39 standing)

Length:
13m

Weight:
11.94 tons

Built by:
Bombardier-Rotax (117)

Lines:
D, 6, 18, 38, 40, 41, 52, 58, 60, 62, 67, 71

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TRAMS (3)

In 1992 Vienna ordered the first generation of ULF (ultra low floor) trams which were a revolutionary step forward in the history of Vienna's public transport system. Two types were ordered from SGP/Siemens Austria, the shorter A and the longer B.
These trams have the lowest floors worldwide, requiring you to step up only 19 cm above street level and were designed by Porsche.

A

Manufactured:
since 1997

Number of trainsets (as of Nov 2008):
51

Pax number:
136 (42 seated/94 standing)

Length:
24.2m

Weight:
30 tons

Built by:
Siemens/SGP (51)

Lines:
O, 1, 2, 37, 40, 42, 44, 46, 52, 58, 62

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Note the cushioned seats.




The cab is inaccessible to the public:





...and the largely identical...


B

Manufactured:
since 1998

Number of trainsets (as of Nov 2008):
101

Pax number:
200 (66 seated/134 standing)

Length:
35.3m (longest in the fleet)

Weight:
43 tons

Built by:
Siemens/SGP (101)

Lines:
D, 5, 6, 26, 31, 43, 49, 60, 67, 71

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I like the old trams. Those new ones suck
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Old November 9th, 2008, 10:25 PM   #389
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I like the old trams. Those new ones suck
Of course the old trams have a sentimental value, but to provide comfortable PT for everyone, new low-floor trams are definitely necessary.
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TRAMS (4)

In 2004, 150 additional ULF trains were ordered. Due to the (mixed) experiences, there have been many modifications including a slightly weaker engine, an updated interior with non-cushioned seats, different monitors and destination displays and headlights. Most importantly, they are all air-conditioned. At the moment, only A1s are operational, with B1s to follow in 2009.

A1

Manufactured:
since 2007

Number of trainsets (as of Nov 2008):
36

Pax number:
136 (42 seated/94 standing)

Length:
24.2m

Weight:
43 tons

Built by:
Siemens (36)

Lines:
2, 46, 52, 58, 62

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Enhanced readability of displays:








A/C:




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Gosh, how I hate plastic seats. Of course they're better for hygienic reasons, but they just look so cheap and are uncomfortable to sit on.
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Old November 9th, 2008, 11:17 PM   #392
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Great job Bahnsteig!

Thanks a lot.
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Old November 9th, 2008, 11:29 PM   #393
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METRO

U/U11/U2

When Vienna's underground network was opened in 1976, the "U" trains were officially introduced, but actually they had been serving the original "Stadtbahn" network since 1972.

A typical "U/U11/U2" train consists of three double wagons.

There is hardly any visible difference between U, U11 and U2. The only differences are purely technical and concern braking technology and engines. All of them run on a third rail system.

Operational since:
1972 (U)
1987 (U11)
2000 (U2 - Refurbished U trains)

Capacity:
6 x 150 (49/91) = 900

Length of a single wagon:
18.4m

Weight of a single wagon:
26.3 tons

Lines:
U: U1, U3, U4
U11: U1, U2, U3, U4
U2: U3

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U2/Prater - Messe


U2/Krieau


U4/Hütteldorf


Shack near Spittelau:


U4/Friedensbrücke:


U4/Margaretengürtel:


These first generation black plastic seats can hardly be found any more:


Currently the most common seats on this type. Blue fabric:


This one is slowly being introduced on all trains. It's much more comfortable than it looks:


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METRO

v/V

The newest trainset for the biggest part of Vienna's network, i.e. all third rail lines (all but one). These trains no longer consist of 6 seperate wagons, so you can walk from one end to the other. Air condition is available here, as well.

Operational since:
2006

Number in service:
23

Capacity:
878 (260/618)

Length:
111.22m

Weight:
166 tons

Lines:
U1, U2, U3, U4

Pics:
U2/Stadion


U1/Aderklaaer Straße


U4/Spittelau:


The front of a V train on its way to assembly (?)


U to the left, V to the right:


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On to the 3 different types of trains that run on Vienna's most unusual line, U6. Since part of it uses a historical viaduct from the late 1800s, it was not possible to construct a third rail, which meant they had to use different trainsets.
The oldest trainset on U6 was already in use long before anyone even thought of a metro in Vienna:

E6/c6
...were already used on Vienna's stadtbahn lines a predecessor of an actual underground network that largely used tracks from the modernization era in the late 1800s and had a lot in common with Vienna's E2/c5 trams. The main (visible) difference was that the Stadtbahn/metro trains had doors on both sides so as to allow for platforms on both sides.

Operational since:
1979

Number in use (Nov 2008):
36 sets (E6/c6)

Capacity:
624 (192/432)

Length:
19.7m

Weight
E6: 28.5 tons
c6: 19.8 tons

Lines:
U6

These days, these trainsets always operate in combination with type T.
(Configuration: E6-c6-T-c6-E6)

Pics:
C6.
Note the T wagon in the middle of the train:




e6:


Very tram-like interior:








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Starting in 1995, new low-floor trains were introduced for U6.

T

An entirely new design, the new trains should bring U6 on par with the other lines of the network. This was urgently needed, as U6 is definitely one of the most heavily used lines.

Operational since:
1995

Number in use:
78

Capacity:
194 (58/136) per wagon

Length of a single wagon:
27.3m

Weight of a single wagon:
34 tons

Lines:
U6

These trains can either be used together with C6/e6 (as explained above) or as a triple set.

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T1

In mid-2008, the newest type of the whole system was introduced for U6 to replace the remaining E6/c6 trains who are definitely dated.
It resembles the T trains a lot and apart from the new colour scheme and the new LED displays, the most striking features are a different interior and an air conditioning system.

Operational since:
2008

Number in use:
34

Capacity:
193 (57/136) per wagon

Length of a single wagon:
26.8m

Weight of a single wagon:
37.6 tons

Lines:
U6

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Plastic seats are the future?
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All pics are from this site. A great and comprehensive source for all types of information. (Sorry - German only)

http://www.fpdwl.at/
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...Plastic seats are the future?
I agree with Rebasepoiss:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...2#post27813412

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