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Old October 1st, 2011, 02:19 PM   #701
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When is the gradual replacement of the 1950s era trams with modern trams scheduled to be completed? At the moment, is seems the mix is roughly about 40% new trams and 60% old trams.
It seems to be already slightly more than 50% in fact. Every line is already served by ULFs at least partially. This is important for disabled people but also for people with a trolley (the latter being the far larger group relying a lot on the low floor trams). That means the Wiener Linien network is now 100% barrier free due to that.

According to the company there are already 230 ULFs in service and 20 vehicles are added each year to that. I would therefore estimate that the old vehicles are going to be gone not before the next decade.
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Old October 1st, 2011, 07:35 PM   #702
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But it can:

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The "loop" appears to be the mainline; 'mainline', just a siding ... the following one's also accessible from the other direction.
Ah thanks - when I first saw it I wondered why the hell the train was 'nudged over' to the right when the straight line it was on would've been quicker.

I'll have to go over there sometime to re-check
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Old November 1st, 2011, 06:06 PM   #703
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 12:00 PM   #704
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Old November 17th, 2011, 07:18 PM   #705
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Old November 19th, 2011, 07:36 PM   #706
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That map is nice but it would be much more informative if the difference was not more or less than 1 train per hour but lets say more or less than a train every 15 min.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 08:48 PM   #707
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The fonts on that map are way too small. I can barely read the station names.
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Old January 8th, 2012, 02:39 AM   #708
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Looks like Vienna finally gets it's S-Bahn ring around the city, which will connect all subway lines in the periphery in 10 Minutes intervals:

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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:11 PM   #709
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The fonts on that map are way too small. I can barely read the station names.
Source of the map: http://homepage.univie.ac.at/horst.p...argemap-s.html
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Old January 17th, 2012, 09:12 AM   #710
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Cool! Wie Berlin! Wie lange wird es werden? Weißt jemand?
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Old January 18th, 2012, 12:46 AM   #711
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Was wie lang? Kilometer weiß zu dem Zeitpunkt noch niemand.
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Old January 20th, 2012, 12:13 AM   #712
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Great tram news. After decades of slowly closing down tram lines, finally there are various plans for major extensions and even proposals for entirely new lines.

The following map is summarizing the projects in a great way. In red you have planned new tram tracks, in light red are the proposed extensions. The thin black lines are existing tram lines and the thick grey lines show existing U-Bahn, S-Bahn and railway lines.

The lines ("25" and "26") north of the Danube just stared construction. "O" and "18" are marked for "priority planning" and a potential "Wienerbergtangente" is being investigated. A short extension of the line "D" (between "O" and "18" on the map) is being built to connect to the new main station.

"O" and "18" extension as well as the "Wienerbergtangente" will be realized beyond 2016.

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Great tram news. After decades of slowly closing down tram lines, finally there are various plans for major extensions and even proposals for entirely new lines.
Bad news. The money would be better spent, in my opinion, expanding the U-bahn.
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U-Bahn is worth nothing if it lacks above surface distribution.

And the U-Bahn will be expanded as well, no worry!
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U-Bahn is worth nothing if it lacks above surface distribution.
I lived in Vienna for a year. I would often walk to the nearest U-bahn station, take the U-bahn (sometimes changing lines) and then walk from the U-bahn station to my destination. Such cases outnumbered my use of the trams by more than 10:1.

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And the U-Bahn will be expanded as well, no worry!
Too little, too slowly.
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 10:23 AM   #716
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Too little, too slowly.

do you really think so?

u2 (north) and u1 (south) are under construction:











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Old January 22nd, 2012, 10:27 AM   #717
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do you really think so?
Yes, I really think so. The U-bahn construction rate is approximately 20 kilometers per decade. I think 50 to 100 kilometers per decade would be a reasonable rate.
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 11:42 AM   #718
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do you really think so?

u2 (north) and u1 (south) are under construction:
Some pics from U1 extension? Thx
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 02:17 PM   #719
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I lived in Vienna for a year. I would often walk to the nearest U-bahn station, take the U-bahn (sometimes changing lines) and then walk from the U-bahn station to my destination. Such cases outnumbered my use of the trams by more than 10:1.

Too little, too slowly.
This works for young people, yes, but not for the elderly. They are relly depending on the surface traffic. Trams and Buses are just as important, as the U-Bahn.

BTW: 1 km of subway in dense regions costs around 200 Mio Euro. Thats why expansion is not booming anymore.
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Some pics from U1 extension? Thx
So far not much to see. They moved streetcar tracks to dig up the street. Tunnel construction has not started yet.
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