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Old March 7th, 2013, 05:32 PM   #781
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The thing is, from a network perspective it doesn't make much sense building a U2 extension down there, only as a part of the yet to be built U5. This is due to the fact that U1 and U2 are already crossing each other twice and the southern end would again serve the same area. So if this extension should be built one day (pretty certain, imo) it's going to look like this:

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Old March 8th, 2013, 02:46 AM   #782
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from a network perspective it doesn't make much sense building a U2 extension down there [to Rennweg S-bahn station].
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on that point. In my opinion the connection from the U2 inner city ring to the S-bahn trunk line is both important and urgent -- from a network perspective. The U1 between Karlsplatz and Haupbahnhof is already crowded and will only get much worse when the Haupbahnhof will be completed.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 05:04 PM   #783
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Old March 22nd, 2013, 12:01 PM   #784
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 08:19 AM   #785
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I guess that Hauptbahnhof will cause problems if only connected by U1. Why they do not plan that U2 south meets U6 at Hauptbahnhof.
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Old April 3rd, 2013, 10:02 PM   #786
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I guess that Hauptbahnhof will cause problems if only connected by U1. Why they do not plan that U2 south meets U6 at Hauptbahnhof.
There is no U6 at Hauptbahnhof.

That U-Bahn plan does not show the S-Bahn. The S-Bahn is however integral part of the Viennese transit system. Especially the Stammstrecke, the main corridor which goes from Floridsdorf to Meidling in U-Bahn like frequencies. The Hbf is in the middle of that corridor and you can reach the U6 on both ends.

This totally unofficial map adds the Stammstrecke and the Vorortelinie (S45) to the subway network. Additional S-Bahn lines and heavy rail are shown by grey lines. The Stammstrecke has trains coming every few minutes and the S45 every 10 min during most of the day (and 15 min at night).

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Old April 3rd, 2013, 10:07 PM   #787
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The last part of the U2 north extension (Aspernstraße - Seestadt) is panned to open towards the end of this year and here you have the new transit concept of the whole area:

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Old April 16th, 2013, 11:05 PM   #788
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Visualization of the entire tram line 26 extension (Kagraner Platz - Hausfeldstraße)
-> see also map in previous post

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Old April 18th, 2013, 02:20 PM   #789
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Do you guys know whether they are actually going to remove the older U bahn trains for the U11/U abd so on ??
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Old April 18th, 2013, 09:38 PM   #790
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According to Fpdwl.at they are replacing Type U trains gradually with new Type v/V trains. This will probably take a long time but I don't know if their is any official time frame for complete replacement.
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Old April 19th, 2013, 12:34 AM   #791
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That would be horrible, i would hate that, first they change franz kaida's voice now they might take away the Type U trains
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Old April 19th, 2013, 02:17 AM   #792
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Any idea of the total cost of the light rail extension and per km?
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Old April 19th, 2013, 08:16 AM   #793
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That would be horrible, i would hate that, first they change franz kaida's voice now they might take away the Type U trains
Type U1/2 trains will still be around for a long time.
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Old April 19th, 2013, 10:13 PM   #794
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Any idea of the total cost of the light rail extension and per km?
Its not light rail but strictly taken tram lines, even though partly with own right of way and for a short part of the 26er extension even on elevated tracks.

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26er extension:
4.5 km new
~50 Mio € (11 Mio € / km)

25er transformation:
1 km new
~10 Mio € (10 Mio € / km)

D extension part 1:

0.7 km
~10 Mio € (14 Mio € / km)


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D extension part 2:
1.2 km
~15 Mio € (12,5 Mio € / km)

Wienerbergtangente:
4.5 km
90-130 Mio € (20-29 Mio € / km)

O extension:
1.7 km new
25-45 Mio € (15-26 Mio € / km)

18 extension:
2 km
30-50 Mio € (15-25 Mio € / km)


http://www.wien.gv.at/verkehr-stadte...es/bim-map.jpg

The per km numbers are a bit misleading as switches and track crossings are especially expensive and the short extensions have a similar amount of them as the larger extensions. I honestly don't know what would make the Wienerbergtangente so expensive though. Maybe they would have to alter the street layout extensively?
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Old April 20th, 2013, 04:15 AM   #795
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That would be horrible, i would hate that, first they change franz kaida's voice...(
I didn't know this. I worked in Vienna for a while and have often visited since and, to me, Franz Kaida was "the voice of Vienna". I never felt I'd arrived until I heard his voice on a tram or U-Bahn.

http://austriantimes.at/news/Busines...na_Underground

From Sunday travellers on the Vienna city underground will find a new public address voice in use.

Instead of a man a woman has been chosen and from this weekend the voice of actress Angela Schneider will be heard advising passengers about their travel status.

In addition one of the messages - Zug fährt ab - warning that the train is about to leave will no longer be heard.

U-Bahn boss Eduard Winter said the new concept for the messages was to make sure people were quickly and efficiently informed of what was happening at any time.

Angela Schneider replaces the former voice provided by Franz Kaida.

The various tones warning of the announcement are also being monitored. Messages in English will be pre-faced with a gong tone for example which is one octave higher than the regular.


See also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqXlHTdSdwI and (auf Deutsch) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU8znFD8o-Y

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Old April 20th, 2013, 03:56 PM   #797
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Franz Kaida's retired. That's a pity but was unavoidable after so many decades. The sad thing is that the Wiener Linien opted for a much more reductionist and generic style. The Viennese accent is almost gone with the new speaker Schneider.

Kaida's voice can be still heard in buses and trams however, for a bit longer, as there is a longer transition phase.

PS: Funny imaginary station with transfer to all existing lines of Vienna, by Kaida: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN5IUWqi5ks
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Old April 20th, 2013, 10:24 PM   #798
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Old April 20th, 2013, 11:07 PM   #799
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Will the new west bahnhof have a grand entry building or is it just platforms?
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