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Old May 9th, 2016, 09:38 AM   #941
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i've been to vienna twice, it's all beautiful memories but not a good city to stay

too expensive
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Old May 13th, 2016, 02:11 PM   #942
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i've been to vienna twice, it's all beautiful memories but not a good city to stay

too expensive
Now that's a very generalizing comment. Aye, if one did the touristy things, if one trusts that everything you get from a travel guide is an insider's recommendation and not a blooming tourist trap, Vienna can be expensive alright. Yet if you do mind where you tread, if one puts in some efforts and does a wee bit of planning that is, there are just as many places who do not deserve being tagged as expensive. But that's probably the case with any other city or tourist destination. With that in mind I am afraid your comment is pretty much irrelevant.
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Old May 13th, 2016, 07:42 PM   #943
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This discussion is a bit off topic indeed. Just let me say that the public transport in Vienna is farily good value. New member states may be cheaper but compared to Western and even more so Northern Europe and especially compared to London you are getting a good deal.
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Old May 14th, 2016, 03:51 PM   #944
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Old June 13th, 2016, 01:37 AM   #945
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Can someone tell me about the Lokalbahn? I'm under the assumption that it's a tram that serves the suburban parts of Vienna, but I don't understand why have this when an S-Bahn is much faster?
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Old June 13th, 2016, 02:23 AM   #946
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Can someone tell me about the Lokalbahn? I'm under the assumption that it's a tram that serves the suburban parts of Vienna, but I don't understand why have this when an S-Bahn is much faster?

The Lokalbahn is a RegioTram/Tram-Train from Vienna to Baden. It partially shares the tram tracks from the Vienna Opera to the Vienna Meidling train station, and from there on has its own tracks. You can find some basic info at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badner_Bahn, the German page of that Wikipedia entry is much more detailed, though.

There are a few differences to the S-Bahn. For once, it is owned by the "Wiener Lokalbahnen" (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiener_Lokalbahnen) , a company owned by the infrastructure service provider of the City of Vienna. The S-Bahn is operated by the federal railway, ÖBB.
Secondly, they use a completely different track. The Lokalbahn is running here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2024982, while the S-Bahn in the related area is approximately this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relati...8.1010/16.3762 (this doesn't show all the stops for the S-Bahn, but the route.
The Lokalbahn is often running closer to / through the centres of several villages/towns along the route, and acts as a local tram also for these areas. For example, it connects the SCS Shopping City Süd to Vienna. I think that rarely people would use it to actually get from Vienna all the way to the centre of Baden, which takes ~62 minutes, vs. around 40-45 minutes with subway, a regional train and then the Lokalbahn/Bus, but it is likely preferred if you go to Wr. Neudorf or other places that are not directly served by the S-Bahn.

On a related note: the S-Bahn line south from Meidling is sharing the track with regular intercity relations, thus it doesn't have much free capacity. Mind that there is a third railway line southwards from Vienna Meidling, the so-called Pottendorfer Linie (which however doesn't serve Baden, as the Lokalbahn does): https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3259327.
This line is partially only single track, but is currently extended to / planned to be extended, to provide additional capacity from Wr. Neustadt to Vienna, potentially also for intercity trains, to be able to provide more regional traffic on the other line.
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Old June 13th, 2016, 02:31 PM   #947
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There are some nice old trams in Vienna.

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Old June 15th, 2016, 12:58 AM   #948
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The plans for a serious upgrade of the S-Bahn line S80 are progressing. With the new Hauptbahnhof and the direct connection to the Westbahn, the so called Verbindungsbahn, which previously was the only connection between the Westbahn and the Meidling, is being upgraded. All single track parts are turned into double tracks and at grade crossings are replaced by underpasses. The one existing station is rebuilt and 2 entirely new stations are added.

On the other end, the station Hirschstetten is reestablished and the Seestadt Aspern gets a new S-Bahn station, right next to the U2 platform. The outdated infrastructure is also upgraded to double track and electrified.

And the frequency of that new S80 is planned to be every 15 min, on the current S80 you only have one train every 60 min. The entire trip will take, similar to now, about 30 min. It will take quite some time though until we'll see this becoming reality. Construction start is projected for 2020 and completion for 2023 (eastern part) and 2025 (western part).


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Old August 21st, 2016, 01:32 PM   #949
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This is some serious, no nonsense heritage tram corridor in Vienna
These were all functional heritage cars waiting for their turn of a drive by at the Rathaus, celebrating an anniversery.



It almost feels like some cities have fewer cars in their entire streetcar system than Vienna has heritage cars ...
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Old October 12th, 2016, 02:36 PM   #950
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From Railway Gazette:

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Flexity Wien design presented as series production begins
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AUSTRIA: Transport Leader for Wien city council Ulli Sima, Wiener Linien CEO Günter Steinbauer and Bombardier Austria CEO Christian Diewald presented the design for the Flexity Wien tram on October 12 to mark the start of series production at Bombardier’s Wien plant.

Wiener Linien awarded Bombardier a €431m contract in 2015 to supply 119 Flexity trams with an option for 37 more. The firm contract includes 24 years of maintenance support under Bombardier’s FlexCare programme

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Old October 12th, 2016, 11:20 PM   #951
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Old October 12th, 2016, 11:33 PM   #952
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I like the new exterior design. The interior features are not totally clear to me yet but I think they'll be ok as well. They don't really want to publish the number of seats it seems as it looks like there will be less than in the ULF B2. But overall it looks like a reasonable choice to me. There should be more space to move around and there is space to stand in the connecting hinges, which the ULF doesn't offer because of the way it is designed. That bothered me the most about the ULF actually.

The colour scheme is actually somewhat in line with the one for the busses:


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Old October 24th, 2016, 06:11 PM   #953
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Wiener Lokalbahnen to order new LRVs
Monday, October 24, 2016



AUSTRIAN light rail operator Wiener Lokalbahnen (WLB) has signed an agreement with the local governments of Vienna and Lower Austria to finance a batch of 18 new LRVs for its 30km line from Vienna to Baden

WLB needs to replace older high-floor vehicles built between 1979 and 1996 and also intends to increase the service between Wiener Neudorf and Baden, which currently operates at 15-minute intervals

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Today I was in Vienna and I didn't have enough time to explore city in detail (in the same way as I explored Prague). Starting with trams:


DSCN7186 by dimlys46, on Flickr


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Bus:


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And U-Bahn - Stephansplatz station, U1 platforms:


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U3 platform:


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Herrengasse station:


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Volkstheater station, U3 platforms:


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U2 platforms:


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Museumsquartier station:


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Karlsplatz station, U2 platforms:


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U4 platforms:


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U1 platforms:


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Plan for new buses is announced:

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Those new extra long busses will feature some very substantial capacity indeed.
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More Cityjets for Wien
21 Dec 2016



AUSTRIA: Transport Minister Jörg Leichtfried announced on December 15 that national operator ÖBB is to order a further 64 three-car Desiro ML trainsets from Siemens. To be deployed mainly on S-Bahn services in eastern Austria, the trains will be delivered between February 2018 and the end of 2019.

Worth €400m, the contract will allow ÖBB to withdraw all remaining Class 4020 S-Bahn trainsets by 2020. The new trains will join those already in operation on Wien S-Bahn routes S1, S2, S7, S40, S50 and S80. ÖBB will then have 156 Cityjets in its fleet

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Idiots. The Cityjets are a joke as S-Bahn. Way too narrow and you can't even get up from the window seat without the other person having to stand up as well.
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Old December 25th, 2016, 12:38 PM   #959
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The term S-Bahn is misleading here as these services are Regionalbahnen rather then S-Bahnen. And because of that the choice of vehicles is reasonable.
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Maybe you can elaborate why exactly you don't consider the Viennese S-Bahn an S-Bahn. I can't follow you there. Is it because most lines do not feature separated tracks from regional train services? If so, I struggle to see how that would matter for the customers and the way they use the system.
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