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Old August 10th, 2011, 03:35 PM   #261
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Wow that pic really puts things into perceptive. The barracks look tiny!! Seeing the barracks in person they are anything but tiny.

What a massive building!
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Old August 10th, 2011, 03:56 PM   #262
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Exhibition buildings seem to be cursed! New York's also was destroyed by fire in 1858, and London's was destroyed by fire in 1936. Both of these were iron and glass structures, New York's had a dome as well, but impressively an iron and glass one.
Melbourne's is the only such building in the world that's survived!
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Old August 11th, 2011, 05:19 AM   #263
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can only imagine what it would be like if still existed in Botanical gardens.
what a sydney landmark.
people would visit it like they do the bridge and opera house.
I'd be the premier exhibition venue in Sydney.
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Old May 4th, 2012, 01:57 AM   #264
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1919 Union House, later Pacific House
first skyscraper in Australia to have 13 floors.
at 54m/180ft,it was one of tallest in australia for quiet some time.
love the lightwellll and mansard roof.
was pulled down in 1975 to make way for qantas/nab dev)-249 george st)

1920 soon after completion (horse and cart)


few years later (early automobiles)
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Old May 4th, 2012, 04:33 AM   #265
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Only the Brooklyn left in that last pic :o(
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Old May 5th, 2012, 12:35 AM   #266
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can only imagine what it would be like if still existed in Botanical gardens.
what a sydney landmark.
people would visit it like they do the bridge and opera house.
I wonder why it was demolished in the first place.
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Old May 5th, 2012, 01:21 AM   #267
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I wonder why it was demolished in the first place.
Um, maybe because it caught fire and burned to the ground, mysteriously taking a range of potentially embarrassing (to the rich and powerful) public records with it......
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Old May 5th, 2012, 12:36 PM   #268
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yeah jam5, as inego said, on the night of sept22, 1882, the timber palace burnt to the ground. only some of the stone towers remained.

heres its locxation.

Image shows an overlay of the old Garden Palace as it stood in what is now the Sydney Botanic Gardens.
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NO ONE knows how the Garden Palace fire of 1882 started.

One theory was that wealthy Macquarie Street residents, upset their harbour views had been stolen by the giant building, lit the blaze.

Another was that it was burnt to destroy the census of 1881. Stored in the palace, the records apparently exposed embarrassing secrets about the convict and squatter origins of many leading families. Or possibility it was an accident.

What ever the cause, the loss of Sydney's grandest building on September 22, 1882 was a disaster for the infant city.

The Herald reported it as news "the whole colony - indeed the whole of the Australian colonies, and we might add, the whole of the civilised world - will hear with deep regret".

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Built from timber and galvanised iron in a corner of the Botanic Gardens for Sydney's International Exhibition of 1879, it housed displays of manufactured and agricultural products, including crystal glass, tobacco, maize and even electric light.

It was huge, but most people have never heard of it," one guide, Heather Branch, said yesterday. "It was several times bigger than the Queen Victoria Building."Directly under its 64-metre-high central dome was a fountain and a colossal statue of Queen Victoria. There were restaurants, an oyster bar and tea rooms.

The Herald's account of the fire described how witnesses saw smoke, "then an immense burst of fire" beneath the dome.

"The roar of the flames leaping up from the basement through the circular aperture for the fountain sounded, the men said, like an explosion.

"Flames wreathed round the great bronze statue of Her Majesty the Queen …" and went "rushing up in long tongues to the dome".

"The stained glass of the skylight dropped in a molten rain …Volumes of black smoke rolled up, and with a crash like a peal of thunder the mighty dome fell in."

Falling cinders set fire to a house in Potts Point and the heat cracked Macquarie Street windows.

Today little remains in the gardens, except for some entrance steps and a statue of a huntsman and his two dogs.

A graphite elephant is held in the Powerhouse Museum.

Where Queen Victoria's statue once stood is now a statue of Eros, erected decades after the blaze.

The executive director of the Botanic Gardens Trust, Dr Tim Entwisle, admitted the destruction of the massive building wasn't all bad. "It left us with a lot more space."



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I have read about the fire but had no idea of just how big the building was until I saw the overlays; remarkable.
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I find the positioning of the building to be quite unusual in that it doesnt run parallel to Macquarie Street.

Even stranger for a grand building to be built with timber when compared to the sandstone found in many major buildings across the city from that period.
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I expect it was built quickly and on a budget for the exhibition, timber is easier to work with.
And unfortunately these exhibition buildings seem to be cursed...
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Why didn't they just build it again?
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Why didn't they just build it again?
It was already a white elephant, hence the fact it was being used for storing public records. The Melbourne building was luck to survive for similar reasons - it's nto as though international conferences were big ongoing business in the Victorian era.
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There are a few major differences between Sydney's Garden Palace and Melbourne's Royal Exhibition Building.

The Sydney building had less time to prepare, so timber was the most practical option. The Melbourne structure had more stone used in its construction, although time is used in beams supporting the roof.

In terms of these buildings being a white elephant, much of Melbourne's REB has been demolished. It was far, far bigger in 1880. (this picture shows an entire Northern Wing behind the current building that stands today)


Sydneys was gigantic, and I honestly don't know how it would have successfully survived until today. It was entirely wood. Had it not been fire, it would have been demolished in the early 20th century, or had swathes demolished like Melbourne's did.
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If only I won this week's lottery....

I would have contributed the funds to rebuilding the Garden Palace..
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funny enough, you could still erect the palace on same spot after all these years. only difference you would have to build a platform over expressway to the northern trancept which you could easily do. i would build it out of steel and paint it to look like timber.it would be one of the worlds great bldgs, become an icon much like opera house and bridge.

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goulburn st facade of Anthony horderns momumental bldg
the 50m tower was a landmark back in 1913.
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goulburn st facade of Anthony horderns momumental bldg
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In the late 1960s when the department store had ceased trading the Sydney Technical College converted large areas inside the building into classrooms, it was pretty primitive by today's standards, and probably a giant fire hazard. The main attraction was the proximity to Chinatown where we could have a quick meal before the evening classes which started at 6.00PM.
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funny enough, you could still erect the palace on same spot after all these years. only difference you would have to build a platform over expressway to the northern trancept which you could easily do. i would build it out of steel and paint it to look like timber.it would be one of the worlds great bldgs, become an icon much like opera house and bridge.
Never, ever would happen today. Too much of the gardens would be lost. Besides, it would have no use today. Even Melbourne's REB was replaced by Jeff's Shed in the 1990's. It's a white elephant, albeit a much loved one.
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i reckon if someone like packer would build it,it would be built.you could have coffee shops art galelrys ect. would be a real cultrural focus.actually not much gardens would be lost, most of it is just greass areas.

zampatti-yeah i know all the history of anthony horden posted it many times over past 10 years. didnt think anyone would be interested. council owned it for a while and used it as carpark in 80s. it died a slow death.
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