Melbourne Airports (MEL & AVV) - Pictures/News/Discussion

[hellospank25]

Originally Posted by AUboy

They wont. It will be markets such as Nadi etc. Sydney routes are going this round. MEL-LHR is suprisingly doing very well esp in First, aswell as MEL-LAX. QF can't cut much more from MEL.

LAX is shit ! I will never understand why people would want to fly to such a shit city and why Melbourne airport is fixated with that destination. San Francisco is a much nicer/better option.

[AUboy]

Originally Posted by hellospank25

LAX is shit ! I will never understand why people would want to fly to such a shit city and why Melbourne airport is fixated with that destination. San Francisco is a much nicer/better option.

Perhaps Melbourne Airport is 'so' fixated on LA because it's the only US city to have direct flights?

[soorox]

This is what most of us have been speculating about all year and might become reality by September

''Originally the idea was just Delhi-Melbourne, but now we are doing the permutations, we are thinking of doing Delhi-Melbourne-Sydney three times [a week], and Delhi-Sydney-Melbourne four times or three times a week. It would be a six- day-a-week proposition, at the least. This is what we are intending.'' Flights might also stop in Bangalore to pick up passengers, servicing the South Indian market.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/new-d...#ixzz1twrfHB7Q

[tayser]

wouldnt do much to arrest passengers over from SQ, MH or even TG

[tourismman]

I posted the flights some time ago and now you want the applauds Soorox

Talk about taking away someone's thunder.

Here they are again for MEL

AI 312 AI 311 01JUL05OCT 0030507 256788 DEL1540 1720 SYDDEL
AI 312 AI 311 07OCT26OCT 0030507 256788 DEL1640 1820 SYDDEL
AI 312 AI 311 02JUL06OCT 1204060 256788 DELSYD2120 2255 DEL
AI 312 AI 311 08OCT27OCT 1204060 256788 DELSYD2220 2355 DEL

[soorox]

i didn't try to steal your thunder, you did post it a while ago and most of us here did speculate on your posted schedules including yourself. I also just posted extra references confirming your schedules, except this time round the flights are slated for a SEP start

And if you want the credit it is all yours

[bwistle]

Originally Posted by hellospank25

LAX is shit ! I will never understand why people would want to fly to such a shit city and why Melbourne airport is fixated with that destination. San Francisco is a much nicer/better option.

Your posts in this thread are truly idiotic. Air travel has nothing to do with how much people in one city 'like' another!

God I hope Air India, crappy or not, in years to come service other Australian cities, not going to fly domestic to get on those deathtrap planes, but still links to India and not the real states where action is ike WA and Qld - stupid.

[soorox]

Originally Posted by Brisbane_Rulz

God I hope Air India, crappy or not, in years to come service other Australian cities, not going to fly domestic to get on those deathtrap planes, but still links to India and not the real states where action is ike WA and Qld - stupid.

What was your post suppose to suggest ? What does the "real states" in this sense have anything to do with direct links to India?

AI is after the large amount of traffic between both MEL & SYD, which accounts a large chunk of total Indian traffic in Australia. Both MEL & SYD have the largest indian communities in Australia and are at the most interests to the indians, as shown evident by the growth figures. But no doubt AI will eventually serve other markets once they believe it is right to do so.

And again, no one is forcing people from other states to fly domestically within Australia to fly to destinations they don't have access too, CX, SQ, MH fly to all 5 major cities in Australia and can provide an easy 1 stop option.

[MelbourneCity]

Originally Posted by AUboy

They wont. It will be markets such as Nadi etc. Sydney routes are going this round. MEL-LHR is suprisingly doing very well esp in First, aswell as MEL-LAX. QF can't cut much more from MEL.

I think Qantas will withdraw completely from Nadi, Noumea services with Jetstar to ramp up services. Does not make sense for QF, JQ and Air Pacific to be flying Fiji routes.

[Melb_aviator]

Originally Posted by MelbourneCity

I think Qantas will withdraw completely from Nadi, Noumea services with Jetstar to ramp up services. Does not make sense for QF, JQ and Air Pacific to be flying Fiji routes.

QF does not fly to NAN, JQ already does.

As for AI, it makes sense to fly triangular routes to both MEL and SYD, especially given the yield pressures which they may encounter. Likely better to fly half via BLR and the other half non-stop to DEL though.

It will be interesting to see the effect it has on SQ, MH and EK. Surpringly, the latter is said to have high loads of India-Australia traffic, even though it is a significant backtrack required.

The AI saga has gone on so long, it's about time they actually follow through on commitments. Time will tell.

[Tyson]

Originally Posted by Brisbane_Rulz

God I hope Air India, crappy or not, in years to come service other Australian cities, not going to fly domestic to get on those deathtrap planes, but still links to India and not the real states where action is ike WA and Qld - stupid.

Not every person who boards an international flight to Australia is visiting the mines.

[Mickeebee]

Originally Posted by hellospank25

LAX is shit ! I will never understand why people would want to fly to such a shit city and why Melbourne airport is fixated with that destination. San Francisco is a much nicer/better option.

L.A. a shit city?????
Each to their own, but personally I LOVE it...much more than SF.

[jarden]

RE: Where the MH 380 will park at MEL

Maybe at the freighter terminal if there is any room left.

[Melb_aviator]

Originally Posted by jarden

Maybe at the freighter terminal if there is any room left.

Given the area will be a construction site fairly soon, I wouldn't be relying on that. Will be interesting to see what the airport has planned to cope with the construction works and operational requirements.

On that subject, it is likely the terminal project details/design should be released in the next couple of weeks. Looking forward to it.

Originally Posted by jarden

Maybe at the freighter terminal if there is any room left.

An A380 on the Melbourne KL route does not make sense, I will be interested to see the figures down the track to be proven wrong. To me it's just a case of, well Sydney is getting them we should too. The A380 could be used on higher yield routes such as KL Tokyo. I have heard that the A380 of Singapore Airlines can have lots of empty seats each day. To me it's more let's keep up with Sydney rather than passenger numbers. Then again aside from Air India, I can't see any new carriers taking up Melbourne for the foreseeable future in this economic climate.

[soorox]

Originally Posted by Melb_aviator

Given the area will be a construction site fairly soon, I wouldn't be relying on that. Will be interesting to see what the airport has planned to cope with the construction works and operational requirements.

They might move the EK 77W sitting next to the SQ A380 to a stand alone bay or over to one of the taxi ways near the Freighter Terminal, they currently do this for certain aircrafts.

Originally Posted by Brisbane_Rulz

An A380 on the Melbourne KL route does not make sense, I will be interested to see the figures down the track to be proven wrong. To me it's just a case of, well Sydney is getting them we should too. The A380 could be used on higher yield routes such as KL Tokyo. I have heard that the A380 of Singapore Airlines can have lots of empty seats each day. To me it's more let's keep up with Sydney rather than passenger numbers. Then again aside from Air India, I can't see any new carriers taking up Melbourne for the foreseeable future in this economic climate.

It is not up to MEL Airport management to decide if an A380 comes or not, its up to the airlines, EK, SQ, QF & MH see value in flying their A380's to MEL that's why they are flying them here, it has nothing to do with your "sydney has one too, so should we" theory. Airlines don't just fly their A380's to certain destinations for fun, they need to make a profit. Bums on seats also don't determine the profitability of the route.

By flying the A380's into MEL, MH will be offering it's best product and in turn making it more attractive to the premium passengers, who they are mainly aiming at for the afternoon bank flights which feeds into their European services including the LHR A380 service (not to mention QF feeding into MH's MEL-KUL flights aswell). This would allow MH to gain more market share and gain higher yields exMEL. The MEL-KUL route generates the most traffic to/from KUL than any other route in Australia. MEL also still has a high number of premium traffic, OW FF's also will be more interested in MH once they join, adding more numbers to the flights.

[Melb_aviator]

Originally Posted by Brisbane_Rulz

An A380 on the Melbourne KL route does not make sense, I will be interested to see the figures down the track to be proven wrong. To me it's just a case of, well Sydney is getting them we should too. The A380 could be used on higher yield routes such as KL Tokyo. I have heard that the A380 of Singapore Airlines can have lots of empty seats each day. To me it's more let's keep up with Sydney rather than passenger numbers. Then again aside from Air India, I can't see any new carriers taking up Melbourne for the foreseeable future in this economic climate.

WTF are you on about? Airlines choose where they put aircraft, not an airports wishlist.

If SQ and MH want to deploy an A380 into MEL it's because they believe it makes sense to do so.

MEL international pax figures are still growing with added capacity by a number of carriers, with a couple of reductions in the mix too. It happens.

No need to sound so dramatic.

[AUboy]

Singapore Airlines have an average load factor of over 90%. Hardly empty.

[Melb_aviator]

2 bits of MEL news on www.airlineroute.net today.

- VN to reduce MEL (and SYD) frequencies in selected periods
- GA to use A330-300s on selected CGK-MEL flights, replacing A330-200s