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Newcastle Guy · November 19th, 2007, 07:05 PM

New plans for the massive Wood Wharf development, to the East of Canary Wharf, have been unveiled. The plans include numerous towers, a number of which are over 150m. The masterplan is by Rogers, however each individual building is to be designed by different architects.

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Originally Posted by DarJoLe

The gold towers are residential. The western one jutting out into the dock is a hotel. They were designed to be along the southern facade to allow commercial space to be at their base so this area could become a waterside area with cafes and bars. There will be steps down into the dock which will have its water treated. There is a possibility of an urban beach, or a floating ampitheatre to be built over the water. The affordable housing blocks will be located at the eastern end of the estate, next to the country park, which has not been fully designed and is open to local community specifications on what is needed and waned in terms of design.

The northern buildings are office, and have been designed with heights in mind so that they don't block sunlight over into Poplar Dock, as well as a calculation of number of workers vs. public transport commitments in the area. None of the individual buildings has been designed or had an architect assigned to them, but they are committed to having at least one iconic office and one iconic residential tower in the scheme.

In between the office and residential towers is a high street, with shops set at a level below ground and cafes and bars set into the ground level of the towers to animate this level (sort of a similar make up to St Pancras Int). This will be covered, but not enclosed, by a glass snake skin roof. They were candid when I asked the amount of independent shops available, but said if the local community were vocal enough they would listen. I also mentioned the possibility of a farmers market which the representative seemed very interested in and said to make mention of it in the questionnaire.

Surrounding and snaking through the estate will be a continuous piece of artwork in the form of a coloured metal ribbon, although this has not been finalised. It is designed to connect people and show a route through the estate, as well as visual interest.

It all seems very nice. It's much better designed than the previous masterplan, and the space for local community input is huge. The high street idea as a lively, vibrant central spine is great, and the stepping down of the walkways into the dock will create some great waterside spaces in summer. Altogether the scheme is certainly a good one, and it seems they are committed to not make the same mistakes Canary Wharf did and has over its twenty years of building.

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Big thanks to DarJoLe for going to the consultation.

Eric Offereins · November 20th, 2007, 01:25 PM

That looks promising.

***wjfox*** · November 20th, 2007, 01:34 PM

Yeah, it's quite a big project. They won't be as tall as the Canada Square towers, but in terms of numbers and land area they will effectively double the size of the present cluster. It will make a huge difference to the view from the south/Greenwich.

New_To _This_City · November 20th, 2007, 01:42 PM

This is an amazing new proposal, it will dramatically increase the size of the canary wharf cluster!!! hopefully we will begin to see some sort of challenge to La Defense emerge from London either in the city or the wharf!!! Or perhaps even the two merge together, to create a New York style epic skyline!!!

Ralphkke · November 20th, 2007, 03:23 PM

This looks amazing!

erbse · November 20th, 2007, 03:27 PM

Well, at least the wooden models fit the title

Seems to be a quite auspicious project, I'm excited how this will be finished in some years. Let's expect some good renders of it!

fettekatz · November 20th, 2007, 03:38 PM

the project will greatly densify that part of London

congratulation

rocky · November 20th, 2007, 06:59 PM

Great, looking forward to see that growing

ferge · November 20th, 2007, 10:34 PM

Hope we finally get some new shapes in this new cluster.. If we end up with more 150m boxes it will become a very poor skyline in this part of London, especially when compared to the City cluster

goschio · November 21st, 2007, 12:49 AM

Wow amazing. Finally London gets a dense cluster.

chjbolton · November 21st, 2007, 04:27 PM

Strange... In ten years the City will host roofs of any kind: flat, angled, curved, spired ones... But CW just doesn't appear to come up with anything else than boxes. Boxes, boxes, boxes!!! And boxes again! One Canada Square was more than 15 years ago people, it's time to get a new... I don't know. Hell! Even a spire will do for Boxland...

Sorry but I'm disappointed by CW again.
Could be an amazing development with just a few more efforts regarding the design.

Splish · November 21st, 2007, 04:30 PM

Actually I prefer leaving the box style structures in CW, and having the more interesting designs in the city.

NothingBetterToDo · November 21st, 2007, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chjbolton

Strange... In ten years the City will host roofs of any kind: flat, angled, curved, spired ones... But CW just doesn't appear to come up with anything else than boxes. Boxes, boxes, boxes!!! And boxes again! One Canada Square was more than 15 years ago people, it's time to get a new... I don't know. Hell! Even a spire will do for Boxland...

Sorry but I'm disappointed by CW again.
Could be an amazing development with just a few more efforts regarding the design.

Those are just massing models.

The actual designs haven't been decided yet, and probably won't be a for a good while. There are going to be some iconic designs, and it is a seperate development than Canary Wharf, so there is no reason to think there wont be spires and curves etc in the final designs.

chjbolton · November 21st, 2007, 06:52 PM

Hope you're right.
When you say that it is not CW... Administratively speaking, OK. But it's right next to it, am I correct?

***Tubeman*** · November 21st, 2007, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chjbolton

Hope you're right.
When you say that it is not CW... Administratively speaking, OK. But it's right next to it, am I correct?

Correct. The land is owned by British Waterways, not CWG... But is adjacent to the Canary Wharf estate.

***wjfox*** · November 21st, 2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chjbolton

But it's right next to it, am I correct?

Yes. This was an earlier plan, by the way -

Click here if images won't display -
http://simonward.com/build/large/dockdev/wood.jpg
http://tecfa.unige.ch/~nova/img/9wood_wharf_massing.jpg

Leeigh · November 21st, 2007, 08:56 PM

uhm too boxy...not my taste but the project is definitely great for the city.

***wjfox*** · November 21st, 2007, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Leeigh

uhm too boxy...not my taste but the project is definitely great for the city.

As explained before, these aren't the final design... they are just a vague indication of height/size/plots.

NothingBetterToDo · November 21st, 2007, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Leeigh

uhm too boxy...not my taste but the project is definitely great for the city.

Give me strength...have people lost the ability to read???

Joka · November 21st, 2007, 11:44 PM

What's the time table for this Wood Warf? I'm a big fan of clusters, so I'm a big fan of this project.

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Eric Offereins The only way is up Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Rotterdam Posts: 35,615 Likes (Received): 636	That looks promising.

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fettekatz BANNED Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,581 Likes (Received): 10	the project will greatly densify that part of London congratulation

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rocky Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London/Paris east suburbs Posts: 1,303 Likes (Received): 0	Great, looking forward to see that growing

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ferge Like 'Berg' Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wigan Posts: 5,424 Likes (Received): 85	Hope we finally get some new shapes in this new cluster.. If we end up with more 150m boxes it will become a very poor skyline in this part of London, especially when compared to the City cluster

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chjbolton chjbolton Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London, Paris, Munich Posts: 736 Likes (Received): 0	Strange... In ten years the City will host roofs of any kind: flat, angled, curved, spired ones... But CW just doesn't appear to come up with anything else than boxes. Boxes, boxes, boxes!!! And boxes again! One Canada Square was more than 15 years ago people, it's time to get a new... I don't know. Hell! Even a spire will do for Boxland... Sorry but I'm disappointed by CW again. Could be an amazing development with just a few more efforts regarding the design. __________________ B O L T O N Last edited by chjbolton; November 21st, 2007 at 04:35 PM.

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Splish Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Surrey, U.K. Posts: 3,517 Likes (Received): 43	Actually I prefer leaving the box style structures in CW, and having the more interesting designs in the city.

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chjbolton chjbolton Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London, Paris, Munich Posts: 736 Likes (Received): 0	Hope you're right. When you say that it is not CW... Administratively speaking, OK. But it's right next to it, am I correct? __________________ B O L T O N

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Leeigh Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MIAMI Posts: 512 Likes (Received): 0	uhm too boxy...not my taste but the project is definitely great for the city.

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Joka Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Madrid Posts: 1,348 Likes (Received): 99	What's the time table for this Wood Warf? I'm a big fan of clusters, so I'm a big fan of this project. __________________ My photothread: Madrid #1: If you see fraud and don't shout fraud, you are a fraud. #2: You should never expose others to risk of harm without being yourself exposed. #3: You should never allow knowledge to turn into a spectator sport, by condoning rankings or awards. -Nassim M. Taleb Last edited by Joka; November 21st, 2007 at 11:52 PM. Reason: wrong thread

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