LONDON - New White Hart Lane (56,250)

meatball1 · November 20th, 2007, 11:57 PM

Tottenham Hotspur FC

2x League:
1951, 1961

8x Cup:
1901, 1921, 1961, 1962, 1967,
1981, 1982, 1991

4x League Cup:
1971, 1973, 1999, 2008

7x Supercup:
1921, 1951, 1961, 1962, 1967,
1981, 1991

1x UEFA Cup Winners' Cup:
1963

2x UEFA Europa League:
1972, 1984

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimB

A few capacity facts for those who can't be bothered to read the PDF:

Capacity 58,237.

Lower tier: 20,811 (26 rows).

Middle tier: 6,776 (8 rows).

Box tier: 1,358 (132 boxes).

Upper tier: 29,292 (up to 39 rows).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobsi

I grabbed a few thing from the .pdf http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/uplo...Booklet_AW.pdf

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Benn · November 21st, 2007, 02:38 AM

It will be nice to see some renderings of this, looks like it could be kind of boring, but we will have to see.

meatball1 · November 21st, 2007, 03:18 AM

It has to be square shaped because of the lack of space. I like it. Looks like a smaller millenium stadium.

These drawings were leaked BTW. There wont be any renders for a few months probably.

Archibald Leitch · November 21st, 2007, 11:05 AM

Is this on the current site?

Chimaera · November 21st, 2007, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archibald Leitch

Is this on the current site?

Well, it sure looks like it. Which probably means that the other buildings on the lot would have to disappear.

***www.sercan.de*** · November 21st, 2007, 12:18 PM

With the helpt of Sketchuo
1st tier: 18° (22 rows)
2nd tier: 29° (14 rows, Maybe Business seats tier)
3rd tier: 32° (31-32 rows)

Gherkin · November 22nd, 2007, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archibald Leitch

Is this on the current site?

No chance! They'll need to relocate.

skaP187 · November 22nd, 2007, 11:16 PM

What´ll be left of the original WHL?
If it´s like zero, why stay in the same place, or is it that diffecult to get a piece of ground in London these days?

***www.sercan.de*** · November 23rd, 2007, 10:38 AM

I think its like in Istanbul
Its hard to find a empty ground in the near of the old Stadium.

skaP187 · November 24th, 2007, 06:45 PM

As I look at the drawings it´s nice design, but nothing original. If i see it good it will be the same height all around.
They will have to come up with something better if they want to replace the WHL stadium, which is legendary for it´s beauty (MOP)
I´d rather see an extension of the allready excisting stadium.

Qatar Son 333 · November 24th, 2007, 07:02 PM

males and females are seperated ??????

skaP187 · November 24th, 2007, 07:08 PM

I guess you´d like that huh?

Benn · November 24th, 2007, 07:26 PM

Those would be the restroom locations

Qatar Son 333 · November 25th, 2007, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benn

Those would be the restroom locations

oh ok thanks that picture freaked me out !

JimB · November 27th, 2007, 03:21 PM

Couple of points / queries about this:

- the top picture shows an underground car park. I thought that, under new UK anti terrorism measures, major public buildings and sporting venues would not be allowed underground car parks because of security risks. Am I right in saying that the Emirates has no underground car park for precisely that reason?

- Spurs chairman, Daniel Levy, has said that Spurs are still considering three or four different options. If that's true, then this may not even be the preferred option.

- I can see that the lower image supposedly comes from the Haringey website but is the more revealing top image from the same source?

- I can't see how anyone can describe the plans as boring on the basis of these plans. They tell us very little about the look of the stadium (and even less about the materials), other than that the stands will surround the pitch.

- where does the figure of 60,000 come from? The last reports we heard suggested that Spurs were aiming for a capacity of 52,000. Has someone done calculations based on these new plans?

Have to say that I can't wait until Spurs do finally reveal their plans in the first half of next year. The club needs and deserves a world class stadium.

-james- · November 27th, 2007, 05:14 PM

The Emirates does have an underground carpark, maybe terror rules would limit its use but currently traffic rules make more restrictions on when it can and cannot be used.

Benn · November 27th, 2007, 10:47 PM

From the Section I count
26 rows lower
11 mid
2 suite
31 upper
Which would be 70 rows, so it looks like a good 60,000 in those plans if my count is close.
My comment about being potentially boring is mostly about the bowl itself, which is another three teir all the way around very uniform, personally something a little more inventive would be nice, although with a tight site like that I can understand a plan like that.
Final renders should be fun to see, even if it will be a little while.

JimB · November 28th, 2007, 02:43 AM

I found these two very basic renders, though I have no idea whether they might just be amateur mock ups on the basis of the plans above. If these are genuine, though, you'd have to say that the new WHL won't have a great deal of architectural merit. And I don't like the look of the gap between the pitch and the stands. Hopefully, they will be able to widen / lengthen the pitch to get closer to the stands, since the current WHL pitch is on the small side:

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6645/newwhl1lo2.jpg

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9371/newwhl2yk1.jpg

Sorry, can't seem to post the actual pictures on here. Maybe someone else....?

***www.sercan.de*** · November 28th, 2007, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benn

From the Section I count
26 rows lower
11 mid
2 suite
31 upper
Which would be 70 rows, so it looks like a good 60,000 in those plans if my count is close.
My comment about being potentially boring is mostly about the bowl itself, which is another three teir all the way around very uniform, personally something a little more inventive would be nice, although with a tight site like that I can understand a plan like that.
Final renders should be fun to see, even if it will be a little while.

Maybe the 3rd tier will be a "LAOla" one like Da luz or Emirates

RobH · November 28th, 2007, 01:15 PM

JimB, those renders were done by a Spurs fan based on the above image. They are a mock-up, nothing more.

November 21st, 2007, 11:05 AM	#4
Archibald Leitch Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 31 Likes (Received): 0	Is this on the current site? __________________ So long, Frank Lloyd Wright.

November 21st, 2007, 12:18 PM	#6
*www.sercan.de* Galatasaray SK Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Istanbul Posts: 24,256 Likes (Received): 458	With the helpt of Sketchuo 1st tier: 18° (22 rows) 2nd tier: 29° (14 rows, Maybe Business seats tier) 3rd tier: 32° (31-32 rows) __________________ International titles of Galatasaray SK UEFA Europa League (1): 2000 UEFA Super Cup (1): 2000 FIBA EuroCup Women (1): 2009 IWBF Champions Cup (4): 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013 IWBF Intercontinental Cup (4): 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012

November 23rd, 2007, 10:38 AM	#9
*www.sercan.de* Galatasaray SK Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Istanbul Posts: 24,256 Likes (Received): 458	I think its like in Istanbul Its hard to find a empty ground in the near of the old Stadium. __________________ International titles of Galatasaray SK UEFA Europa League (1): 2000 UEFA Super Cup (1): 2000 FIBA EuroCup Women (1): 2009 IWBF Champions Cup (4): 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013 IWBF Intercontinental Cup (4): 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012

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November 21st, 2007, 02:38 AM	#2
Benn Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 1,405 Likes (Received): 5	It will be nice to see some renderings of this, looks like it could be kind of boring, but we will have to see.

November 21st, 2007, 03:18 AM	#3
meatball1 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 141 Likes (Received): 0	It has to be square shaped because of the lack of space. I like it. Looks like a smaller millenium stadium. These drawings were leaked BTW. There wont be any renders for a few months probably.

November 22nd, 2007, 11:16 PM	#8
skaP187 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Alicante Posts: 1,688 Likes (Received): 10	What´ll be left of the original WHL? If it´s like zero, why stay in the same place, or is it that diffecult to get a piece of ground in London these days?

November 24th, 2007, 06:45 PM	#10
skaP187 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Alicante Posts: 1,688 Likes (Received): 10	As I look at the drawings it´s nice design, but nothing original. If i see it good it will be the same height all around. They will have to come up with something better if they want to replace the WHL stadium, which is legendary for it´s beauty (MOP) I´d rather see an extension of the allready excisting stadium.

November 24th, 2007, 07:02 PM	#11
Qatar Son 333 BANNED Join Date: May 2006 Location: Doha (Qatar) Posts: 8,072 Likes (Received): 0	males and females are seperated ??????

November 24th, 2007, 07:08 PM	#12
skaP187 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Alicante Posts: 1,688 Likes (Received): 10	I guess you´d like that huh?

November 24th, 2007, 07:26 PM	#13
Benn Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 1,405 Likes (Received): 5	Those would be the restroom locations

November 27th, 2007, 03:21 PM	#15
JimB Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 7,291 Likes (Received): 95	Couple of points / queries about this: - the top picture shows an underground car park. I thought that, under new UK anti terrorism measures, major public buildings and sporting venues would not be allowed underground car parks because of security risks. Am I right in saying that the Emirates has no underground car park for precisely that reason? - Spurs chairman, Daniel Levy, has said that Spurs are still considering three or four different options. If that's true, then this may not even be the preferred option. - I can see that the lower image supposedly comes from the Haringey website but is the more revealing top image from the same source? - I can't see how anyone can describe the plans as boring on the basis of these plans. They tell us very little about the look of the stadium (and even less about the materials), other than that the stands will surround the pitch. - where does the figure of 60,000 come from? The last reports we heard suggested that Spurs were aiming for a capacity of 52,000. Has someone done calculations based on these new plans? Have to say that I can't wait until Spurs do finally reveal their plans in the first half of next year. The club needs and deserves a world class stadium.

November 27th, 2007, 05:14 PM	#16
-james- Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 78 Likes (Received): 0	The Emirates does have an underground carpark, maybe terror rules would limit its use but currently traffic rules make more restrictions on when it can and cannot be used.

November 27th, 2007, 10:47 PM	#17
Benn Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 1,405 Likes (Received): 5	From the Section I count 26 rows lower 11 mid 2 suite 31 upper Which would be 70 rows, so it looks like a good 60,000 in those plans if my count is close. My comment about being potentially boring is mostly about the bowl itself, which is another three teir all the way around very uniform, personally something a little more inventive would be nice, although with a tight site like that I can understand a plan like that. Final renders should be fun to see, even if it will be a little while.

November 28th, 2007, 02:43 AM	#18
JimB Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 7,291 Likes (Received): 95	I found these two very basic renders, though I have no idea whether they might just be amateur mock ups on the basis of the plans above. If these are genuine, though, you'd have to say that the new WHL won't have a great deal of architectural merit. And I don't like the look of the gap between the pitch and the stands. Hopefully, they will be able to widen / lengthen the pitch to get closer to the stands, since the current WHL pitch is on the small side: http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6645/newwhl1lo2.jpg http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9371/newwhl2yk1.jpg Sorry, can't seem to post the actual pictures on here. Maybe someone else....?

November 28th, 2007, 01:15 PM	#20
RobH SPURRED Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London / Kent Posts: 8,430 Likes (Received): 172	JimB, those renders were done by a Spurs fan based on the above image. They are a mock-up, nothing more.