LONDON - New White Hart Lane (56,250)

[www.sercan.de]

And lets hope its not HOK Sports.
3 HOK Sports stadium in 1 city would be a lil bit too much.

[Republica]

They need to make sure tranposrt is ok. Isnt it a bit crap even now.

[JimB]

There is a danger that it could be HOK, I suppose.

One of the key people working on Spurs' stadium project is also one of the main people who helped to deliver the Emirates through to completion.

[JimB]

Originally Posted by Republica

They need to make sure tranposrt is ok. Isnt it a bit crap even now.

Bit of a myth, really.

Public transport around White Hart Lane isn't great, admittedly, but it's no worse than most other English stadia.

I mean, you couldn't exactly say that Anfield, Hillsborough, Fratton Park, Villa Park, Emirates or Twickenham (among many, many others) are especially easy to access on match days.

White Hart Lane is within half a mile of the A406 North Circular; within five miles of the M25 motorway; 200 metres from White Hart Lane train station; and 600 metres from Northumberland Park train station. The area is very well served by buses. The nearest two London Underground stations (Seven Sisters and Tottenham Hale) are, admittedly, a brisk 20 minute walk away. But maybe Spurs and Haringey council have decided that they will only be able to force Transport for London's hand (regarding a Victoria Line extension to Northumberland Park) if they go ahead with stadium plans regardless.

To ease congestion, there is now a controlled parking scheme around the stadium which has led to far less traffic in the immediate vicinity. Of course there are still traffic jams leading to and away from the stadium before and after matches - but you show me a major sporting venue where there aren't traffic jams on event days.

[Gherkin]

White seats please! I can't think of any other football stadia in the UK with white seats...

[RobH]

Ah yes, completely agree!

[2005]

My eyes was were partly filled on the platform at East Croydon, I have waited for over seven years for something to be finally confirmed, one thing I'd like to say, COME ON YOU SPURS 4-2 AND YOU F***ED IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NeilF]

Originally Posted by Gherkin007

White seats please! I can't think of any other football stadia in the UK with white seats...

The only two in England with predominantly white seats are Broadhall Way in Stevenage and The Avenue Stadium in Dorchester, with capacities of 7,100 and 5,000 respectively. The only one in Northern Ireland is Taylor's Avenue in Carrickfergus, which only has about 400 seats. There are none in Scotland or Wales that I know of. It would certainly be the only large stadium in the UK with white seats but there's generally a reason for that. I can see the seats being either green or navy.

[plasticterminator]

Spurs not only famous club in England with wrong colour seats (could be a new thread this one!) Leeds united also have the everton,chelsea,birmingham blue but play in white and traditonally yellow away strip. Newcastle grey seats also springs to mind.
And i dont mean clubs in temp homes sharing etc




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[Snowy]

Originally Posted by 2005

My eyes was were partly filled on the platform at East Croydon, I have waited for over seven years for something to be finally confirmed, one thing I'd like to say, COME ON YOU SPURS 4-2 AND YOU F***ED IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, great game last night, but I think your avatar needs updating, you want 'Arry up there!

Yiddoes!!!!!!!!

[EPA001]

Great news for Tottenham which has always been a special club in England to follow, even if they are struggeling the last couple of years. Hopefully the new stadium will give the whole club a boost!

[Gherkin]

What do you think 2005?

[Kobo]

I didn't read a date they want this built by, anybody know?

[Goolay-Roubley]

London comes up trumps again. What a sporting city the place is. Now. Imagine the plans that Chelsea will put forward within the next year. I wouldn't be suprised if they go to 80,000.

[JimB]

Originally Posted by Kobo

I didn't read a date they want this built by, anybody know?

No date.

So far, only the committment to hold a public exhibition of plans from November 14th-18th and then to submit a planning application some time during 2009.

Assuming that there are no difficulties with the application (and it is highly unlikely that there will be), all will depend on Spurs' ability to raise the finance. It is even possible that Levy has no intention of undertaking the building of the stadium himself but that, by doing all the preparatory work for a new stadium, he will make the club more attractive to potential new owners.

If Levy does intend to oversee the building of the new stadium and if he has already arranged for the finance, then the earliest that building could start, I would imagine, is 2010. If the schedule is similar to that of the Emirates' construction, that would mean Spurs moving into the new stadium at the beginning of the 2012-13 season.

The timing all really depends upon how much Spurs can demand for the stadium naming rights (and how much they can ask the sponsors to pay up front); how much profit they can make from the property aspect of the development; how much of their own money they can afford to pay up front; and how much they can safely and sensibly borrow.

[Benjuk]

Bit confused by the capacity issue. They average about 35k. They apparently have a waiting list of 22k. So why go for a capacity of only 60k. That only leave 3k to expand beyond the existing market. Right?

Oh, and I don't believe for a second the capacity will be under 60, 356, even if they aren't going to leave room for further expansion of their support, they are honour bound as a football club to do a bit of one-up-man-ship on the neighbours.

Also, with a world cup bid coming up, it stands to reason that any club already building a super-stadium will want to make sure it's one of the two largest in London.

[JimB]

Originally Posted by Benjuk

Bit confused by the capacity issue. They average about 35k. They apparently have a waiting list of 22k. So why go for a capacity of only 60k. That only leave 3k to expand beyond the existing market. Right?

Tottenham sell out 36,000 every Premier League game, unless the away team fail to sell their allocation. But of that 36,000, only 23,000 are season ticket holders. The level of season ticket holders is capped so that getting to watch Spurs home games isn't entirely a closed shop.

In other words, with a waiting list of 22,000, Spurs could have sold 45,000 season tickets this year. Which, after allowing for up to 3,000 away fans, would leave a further 12,000 tickets to go on sale to the remaining 50,000 or so Spurs members and, after that, to go on general sale. That should be adequate for all bar the biggest games.

Oh, and I don't believe for a second the capacity will be under 60, 356, even if they aren't going to leave room for further expansion of their support, they are honour bound as a football club to do a bit of one-up-man-ship on the neighbours.

I suspect that you may be correct! Wouldn't be surprised if capacity was eventually revealed to be a little bit above 61,000........61, after all, being a rather significant number to Spurs fans!

Also, with a world cup bid coming up, it stands to reason that any club already building a super-stadium will want to make sure it's one of the two largest in London.

Capacity of stadium won't be the only determining factor, of course - especially if we're only talking about a difference of a thousand or so. Besides, I rather suspect that Chelsea will trump both Spurs and Arsenal before 2018 - or whenever the World Cup next comes to England.

[www.sercan.de]

61?
why?

[GunnerJacket]

Originally Posted by www.sercan.de

61?
why?

Last time they won the league and it also happened to be a league/cup double.

Originally Posted by Gherkin007

What do you think 2005?

I would've thought the s**** fans would find such images to be sacrilege!

Originally Posted by JimB

It is even possible that Levy has no intention of undertaking the building of the stadium himself but that, by doing all the preparatory work for a new stadium, he will make the club more attractive to potential new owners.

Really? I hadn't thought of that and hadn't heard anything about a possibility for selling. Seems surprising to me given that they're such a profitable club.

Originally Posted by Benjuk

Bit confused by the capacity issue. They average about 35k. They apparently have a waiting list of 22k. So why go for a capacity of only 60k. That only leave 3k to expand beyond the existing market. Right?

Sell-outs are all important to clubs these days, both as a means for keeping ticket prices high and to provide a sense of easier budgeting (less guess work on projections). Best to begin here and then expand as able in the future, while building up more of a waiting list (which can also be a profit maker).

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Re: Chelsea building/World Cup
If Chelsea are to build or expand it's going to come again at the expense of RA, as the club itself remains a debtors operation. Given the costs that would entail I can't imagine RA is prepared to add to his existing $1B "losses" in the club, especially given the tenuous nature of their current success. As has been stated, they're not quite at the level of natural, consistent support as s**** or Arsenal, and without RA's funding they'd have to sell players, likely drop down the table, etc. (Even as Gooner I'd rather have an honest s**** side rewarded in the standings compared to Chelsea.) Bottom line, speaking purely about the club, Chelsea aren't equipped for such a move unless RA is simply interested in losing more money.

[www.sercan.de]

Why not 63 :d
First European title