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Old March 28th, 2008, 10:57 AM   #181
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Can't see Romen elements here, but at street level, it looks great.

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Old March 28th, 2008, 01:14 PM   #182
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Romen?

By the way, there are now two threads for the same project.
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Old April 29th, 2008, 05:31 AM   #183
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I am going to miss m big hole in the ground where you could see out to the sky from trains before going under the river.

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Old April 29th, 2008, 02:15 PM   #184
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Almost everything you see in this thread isn't being built since the final Tishman masterplan was picked.

By the way, I was right when I said that I though the height of the towers in the TS Masterplan was being downplayed to prevent certain groups of people from moaning and whining. I don't know if they'll stick to the planned heights, but of they do, in terms of height massing, it will be like getting two Citigroup Centers AND two John Hancock Centers in midtown... so let's hope they keep that part of the plan or decide to improve upon it.
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Old April 29th, 2008, 06:47 PM   #185
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man why did they choose that one?

What are the hights of those buildings?
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Old April 29th, 2008, 07:09 PM   #186
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the heights of the original plan:

2 x 336m
2 x 275m
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Old May 23rd, 2008, 01:16 PM   #187
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News:

It's great how both the PA and the MTA held meetings thursday to get things moving along on both the WTC and Hudson Yards developments. A great day in the development of the city.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/23/ny...l?ref=nyregion
M.T.A. Approves a New Deal to Build at West Side Yards

By CHARLES V. BAGLI
May 23, 2008

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority unanimously approved a tentative billion-dollar deal with the Related Companies on Thursday to build a 26-acre, $15 billion enclave of office towers, residential buildings and parks over the West Side railyards.

Related will spend tens of millions in the next several years, including $11 million in fees paid on Thursday and an $18.8 million down payment later this year, as well as millions in architectural and engineering fees. But those are relatively small sums for a $15 billion project.

Related would not have to commit the bulk of the money until construction begins. The platform over the railyards itself is expected to cost about $2 billion. The earliest that work can begin is in late 2009 or early 2010, according to the deal.
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Old May 23rd, 2008, 11:17 PM   #188
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This is bad news once again mayor bloomberg has **** us. Where is Durst their project was the best. They took eight steps backward with the hudson yard. I'm crossing my finger hoping this one fall through too. This suppose to rival the WTC but with this choose it doesn't even come close.
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Old May 23rd, 2008, 11:20 PM   #189
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It was the MTA that chose this developer not Bloomberg. lol
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Old May 23rd, 2008, 11:26 PM   #190
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Sill disappointed over the decision
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Old May 23rd, 2008, 11:59 PM   #191
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Related was also not my favourite....but we'll see what the future brings, the design is probably not final...so i'm still optimistic
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Old May 24th, 2008, 12:07 AM   #192
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I hope so, I mean this:


It's just so bleh... The supertall is good, that should stay the same, but everything else is so not outstanding. Not that their designs are bad, but for a project this big it just doesn't bring anything new to the table. Not to mention that street level-wise it's the worst. It's pretty bland IMO.
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Old May 24th, 2008, 12:42 AM   #193
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Looks good, nice variety of buildings there.
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Old May 24th, 2008, 12:55 AM   #194
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the style is more classic like brookfield...that's not bad IMO
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Old May 24th, 2008, 01:16 AM   #195
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Yeah, they have the best looking supertall, but from the front it only looks like it has a few floors because a slice of the front is used as a giant garden, I recall.
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Old May 24th, 2008, 01:42 AM   #196
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the main problem for me with the related design is the big space in the middle, hope that will be changed
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Old May 24th, 2008, 06:21 AM   #197
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Of all the proposals Related probably had the most secure financing. Considering the economic situation that was likely a big factor in choosing them. As for the buildings themselves, a lot of what will actually be built will depend on whether they secure a large anchor tenant early in the process. If they do then the design will likely proceed from the needs of that tenant. As such we could end up with a very different proportion of residential/commercial space. They will likely want to have at least 30% of the commercial space not leased by the anchor tenant. Thus if the tenant demands lots of space they may need to add more commercial space. Conversely they may decide that 5.5 million square feet is too much considering the nearby Brookfield development that may compromise much of the new westside Class A commercial space.

Personally I think that as the economy improves they will add more commercial space.
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Old May 24th, 2008, 11:18 AM   #198
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they should develop it into smaller parcels... blah
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Old May 24th, 2008, 02:25 PM   #199
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they should develop it into smaller parcels... blah
Unfortunately, since building here requires a huge amount of money in infrastructure before any buildings are built this city has to let a single developer do the project. If the city had the Financial Resources and wanted to spend them on a single project to pay for the infrastructure then the project could be broken up. Otherwise no developer would want to spend the money on infrastructure for a small piece of pie. It's estimated the infrastructure before any building started is at least one billion dollars!
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Old May 24th, 2008, 10:52 PM   #200
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The MTA should have different developers for each building. I would like to see Durst supertall built they had the best supertall. Related supertall doesn't look super let alone tall lol.
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