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Old January 31st, 2013, 06:24 PM   #2081
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A move here would seem to make the most sense given their existing relationship with Related, and that they could move here at cost. Interesting to note that the different needs of all their divisions is complicating the matter, I hadn't even thought of that. I also would not be surprised to see them move some of their ops out of Manhattan, to JC, LIC, BK, or Stamford, but a big chunk of their ops will remain in Manhattan.
I agree. TW occupies millions of sf. I could see them buying 1m sf at the Yards and leasing the rest in the lower cost areas that you mentioned. The same holds true for Sony and Ralph Lauren. The three of them could easily fill this tower.
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Old February 1st, 2013, 05:17 AM   #2082
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I agree. TW occupies millions of sf. I could see them buying 1m sf at the Yards and leasing the rest in the lower cost areas that you mentioned. The same holds true for Sony and Ralph Lauren. The three of them could easily fill this tower.
Or they could consolidate all their high value ops at Manhattan West next door.
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Old February 1st, 2013, 02:21 PM   #2083
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To the extent that they're looking to cut costs, Related's offer to sell space at cost makes the Yards the only feasible option for them, particularly since they currently own their space and presumably would like to continue to do so.
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Old February 2nd, 2013, 10:52 AM   #2084
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To the extent that they're looking to cut costs, Related's offer to sell space at cost makes the Yards the only feasible option for them, particularly since they currently own their space and presumably would like to continue to do so.
Well, if TW takes up a lot of the space that could push other prospective tenants to Manhattan West. After all you can't name a tower after more than one tenant. Anyways!
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Old February 5th, 2013, 09:26 PM   #2085
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Hudson Yard's Culture Shed detailed

City Plannning Commission passes plans for new cultural facility to rise in Hudson Yards. Now proposal goes to a community board for review.

By Matt Chaban
February 5, 2013

"On Monday, the City's Department of Cultural Affairs provided its most detailed plans yet for Culture Shed, a 170,000-square-foot visual and performing arts institution that will anchor the southern end of The Related Cos.'s 26-acre Hudson Yards project west of Penn Station.

Designed by Diller Scofidio + Renfro and Rockewell Group, the building is envisioned as a kuntshalle, essentially a museum with no permanent collection, that would accommodate shows from local and international cultural establishments. Its most dramatic feature will be a 140-foot retractable structure that when rolled into place will double the size of the ground-floor gallery..."

"...Among the proposed changes is that the 150-foot-tall Culture Shed, will be 70,000 square feet larger than the 100,000-square-foot cultural space approved in 2004. The building, which will abut the High Line along 30th Street near 11th Avenue, was to have been surrounded on all sides by public open space. The building has now been shifted west, nestled inside a neighboring apartment building, also designed by Diller Scofidio + Renfro, with which it will share back-of-house space.

Culture Shed promoters say the changes will create a larger, higher-quality public space that allows for a free-flowing connection between the High Line, a large public plaza at the heart of the Hudson Yards eastern block and Hudson Boulevard, a park that will extend to 42nd Street.

Some planning commissioners worried this was a move by Related, which is developing the residential tower, to increase the height of its building, since the shared space will not count against the developer's air rights within the project.

"They want the (additional size)," Commissioner Irwin Cantor said..."
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Old February 5th, 2013, 09:30 PM   #2086
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Nice, the culture shed has been such an overlooked aspect of this development. Should be a great asset.

Edit: Cool rendering showing the shed from the High Line, it's the structure with the white X bracing.


http://blog.archpaper.com/wordpress/archives/26796

And another, why not.


http://www.newyorkyimby.com/2012/10/...des-those.html
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Can't wait to see the culture shed in action!
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Old February 6th, 2013, 01:01 AM   #2088
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Holy shit that looks awesome. New York is getting some truly great architecture once again.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 01:52 AM   #2089
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new york city has finally found its niche in modern architecture. With sites like hudson yards, one57, tower verre, and the world trade center now rising, new york is in for a wonderful new skyline in the near future.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 01:59 PM   #2090
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I agree.
BTW, the colour of the culture shed looks very different in both renders, but I like the design.
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Hudson Yard's Culture Shed detailed

City Plannning Commission passes plans for new cultural facility to rise in Hudson Yards. Now proposal goes to a community board for review.

By Matt Chaban
February 5, 2013

"On Monday, the City's Department of Cultural Affairs provided its most detailed plans yet for Culture Shed, a 170,000-square-foot visual and performing arts institution that will anchor the southern end of The Related Cos.'s 26-acre Hudson Yards project west of Penn Station.

Designed by Diller Scofidio + Renfro and Rockewell Group, the building is envisioned as a kuntshalle, essentially a museum with no permanent collection, that would accommodate shows from local and international cultural establishments. Its most dramatic feature will be a 140-foot retractable structure that when rolled into place will double the size of the ground-floor gallery..."

"...Among the proposed changes is that the 150-foot-tall Culture Shed, will be 70,000 square feet larger than the 100,000-square-foot cultural space approved in 2004. The building, which will abut the High Line along 30th Street near 11th Avenue, was to have been surrounded on all sides by public open space. The building has now been shifted west, nestled inside a neighboring apartment building, also designed by Diller Scofidio + Renfro, with which it will share back-of-house space.....

Some planning commissioners worried this was a move by Related, which is developing the residential tower, to increase the height of its building, since the shared space will not count against the developer's air rights within the project.

"They want the (additional size)," Commissioner Irwin Cantor said..."
It seems like we're getting another supertall at this site since this residential building likely will be 150 feet taller.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 03:00 PM   #2092
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That Culture Shed idea is a very promising aspect of this development!


Overall, I think we're safe to say this will be a fantastic project for NYC.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 03:20 PM   #2093
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It seems like we're getting another supertall at this site since this residential building likely will be 150 feet taller.
It says the Culture shed is 150ft tall, not that the residential building will be 150ft taller.....Are you just making up random numbers? or?
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Old February 6th, 2013, 04:45 PM   #2094
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It says the Culture shed is 150ft tall, not that the residential building will be 150ft taller.....Are you just making up random numbers? or?
Related is seeking approval to incorporate the 150' tall shed into the base of the tower, rather than have it as a free standing structure. Thus, the tower will grow by 150 feet.
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Old February 7th, 2013, 06:29 AM   #2095
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I should learn to read I guess...
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Simple mathematics.
If they don't want to reduce the amount of apartments, it will be that taller.
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My maths is fine, I just skipped over the sentence saying they were incorporating into another building
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Old February 7th, 2013, 10:22 PM   #2098
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help Robert do you have some news about this tower?
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really hope the super tall news is accurate! i think this is my favorite building in the complex so far
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Old February 8th, 2013, 05:41 AM   #2100
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It seems like we're getting another supertall at this site since this residential building likely will be 150 feet taller.
Why are planners so worried about a slight height increase? Is this a common thing? I would have thought planners were not so anti scraper in a high rise area.
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