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Old February 8th, 2013, 06:14 AM   #2101
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help Robert do you have some news about this tower?
yhe wonderfull madison tower by libeskind
Hi, Giorgio. I don't have any new information.
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Old February 8th, 2013, 01:47 PM   #2102
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Why are planners so worried about a slight height increase? Is this a common thing? I would have thought planners were not so anti scraper in a high rise area.
I don't see anyone being worried?
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Old February 8th, 2013, 11:40 PM   #2103
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I don't see anyone being worried?
Yes, the article says something akin to: planners are worried that the developer wants to increase the height of the tower.
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Old February 9th, 2013, 12:23 AM   #2104
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so someone help me ou there does this mean there trying for the tower to be 1487 feet? or are they trying to increase on eof the shorter ones
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Old February 9th, 2013, 04:27 AM   #2105
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I agree.
BTW, the colour of the culture shed looks very different in both renders, but I like the design.
I prefer the second render. The first feels too '70s because it reminds me of Transamerica pyramid's base from the side.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 04:24 PM   #2106
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so someone help me ou there does this mean there trying for the tower to be 1487 feet? or are they trying to increase on eof the shorter ones
Wouldn't that be great??
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Old February 11th, 2013, 05:25 PM   #2107
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so someone help me ou there does this mean there trying for the tower to be 1487 feet? or are they trying to increase on eof the shorter ones
All I see is that the planners are worried the developer wants to increase the height. The height from which tower I don't know.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 08:13 PM   #2108
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I would be happy with a height increase.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 08:29 PM   #2109
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I would be happy with a height increase.
You're not alone . ~450m would be awesome!
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Old February 11th, 2013, 10:12 PM   #2110
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No clue which tower they want to make taller, but this shows what they did with the culture shed, integrating it into D Tower's base instead of having a separate building.


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Old February 11th, 2013, 11:34 PM   #2111
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I don't know if I like that, I think it was better if it was like the WTC. The museum seperated and the towers alone.
About any height increase, if it is about the lower office tower is isn't bad because that one is quite fat.
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Old February 13th, 2013, 07:54 PM   #2112
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February 12, 2013, 7:46 p.m. ET

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Credit Suisse Group AG CSGN.VX +0.04%is eyeing a new Manhattan home. The Swiss bank recently reached out to a select set of landlords around Manhattan seeking proposals to build or host a new home for the company, according to multiple real-estate executives briefed on the company's search. Credit Suisse currently leases about three million square feet in Manhattan, much of which is in a building overlooking Madison Square Park, but the bank has plans to shrink in the future.

The candidates include Related Cos. for one of the towers it is planning in its sprawling Hudson Yards development on Manhattan's far West Side; Silverstein Properties for its planned 1,349-foot tower at 2 World Trade Center, and Brookfield Office Properties Inc. BPO.T +1.32%for both a development site on the West Side and existing Lower Manhattan office buildings, the executives said.

Credit Suisse's lease runs through 2017 at its current U.S. headquarters in the ornate Art Deco tower at 11 Madison Ave.

Of course, the bank isn't necessarily going to leave. Businesses like Viacom Inc. VIAB +0.27%and UBS AG have recently whetted developers' appetites by considering moving, only to end up staying in place.
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Old February 13th, 2013, 09:19 PM   #2113
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2WTC or Hudson Yards. What a choice to make...
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Old February 13th, 2013, 10:21 PM   #2114
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I highly doubt that they'll go to 2 WTC. That's expensive space. My guess is that they'll stay at 1 Madison or go to the HY.
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Old February 13th, 2013, 10:40 PM   #2115
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2WTC or Hudson Yards. What a choice to make...
it will be better if they go to 2WTC( i think that you know why). HY will be build anyway, but 2WTC will not be build without big tenants...
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Old February 13th, 2013, 11:51 PM   #2116
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Old February 14th, 2013, 01:26 AM   #2117
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it will be better if they go to 2WTC( i think that you know why). HY will be build anyway, but 2WTC will not be build without big tenants...
Better for us, yes, but not better for the price unfortunately.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 01:41 AM   #2118
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it will be better if they go to 2WTC( i think that you know why). HY will be build anyway, but 2WTC will not be build without big tenants...
Towers like 2 WTC, 15 Penn, etc will be built when the economy has fully recovered. In the short term, companies will seek value.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 06:54 PM   #2119
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If CIM gives CS a good deal, they'll probably stay at 1 Madison.

Sapir, CIM take 11 Madison Avenue off the market
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The owners of 11 Madison Avenue have decided not to sell the Midtown South office building, and are concentrating on renewing major tenant Credit Suisse’s lease instead, Crain’s reported. The Sapir Organization and CIM Group had been looking to sell the 2.2-million-square-foot tower for $1.5 billion, which could have been one of the city’s largest office sales to date.

Though Sapir and CIM had apparently generated lucrative offers for the property, between East 24th and East 25th streets, the owners said they would generate higher profits by renewing a lease with Credit Suisse, which occupies more than three-quarters of the building. The lease expires in 2017.

Darcy Stacom of CBRE, who had been marketing the property, told Crain’s that the potential vacancy could affect the sale price by hundreds of millions of dollars. “Through the course of the bid we showed that it was a very likely scenario for Credit Suisse to renew,” Stacom told Crain’s. “Ownership started to realize that they didn’t want to leave that money on the table.”

The sale was expected to catapult the building into a small group of Manhattan office properties that have sold for more than $1 billion.

Eleven Madison is the second major office property to be yanked from the market in recent months. In August, George Comfort & Sons offered Worldwide Plaza for sale, and it was expected to fetch $1.2 billion, but it is no longer on the market. [Crain’s] —Leigh Kamping-Carder
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Old February 19th, 2013, 04:32 PM   #2120
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waiting the phase two !!!!!
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