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Old February 25th, 2013, 11:13 PM   #2181
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You know they don't mean the whole tower with that right?
The whole South Tower will be completed in 2015.

i know, but to think that even the superstructure will be done at that time is crazy.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 01:02 AM   #2182
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This means that One57 is taller than the Shard by 1 foot, no?
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Old February 26th, 2013, 01:21 AM   #2183
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From ground to top it is. But officially not.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 01:31 AM   #2184
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But then a 1 story house on top of Mt. Everest would be over 26,000 feet taller than the Burj.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 01:52 AM   #2185
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But then a 1 story house on top of Mt. Everest would be over 26,000 feet taller than the Burj.

This. Buildings are measured from the lowest open air entrance to the architectural top. In the case of the Shard, I assume that entrance is at ground level.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 01:55 AM   #2186
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Then the height will most likely change just as did Sears' a while back.

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The Franklin Street entrance is 4 feet (1.2 meters) lower than the main entrance on Wacker Drive, for this reason the height of the tower was listed as 1,454 feet (443 meters) for many years, the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat measures height from the main entrance and thus the official measurement now stands at 1,450 feet (442 meters)
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Old February 26th, 2013, 05:42 AM   #2187
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as long as everything will be alright with economy and all - I can foresee this to become a very popular place in the end.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 04:57 PM   #2188
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Related, Amtrak To Construct Box For Rail Tunnel Between Manhattan And NJ


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Related Companies and Amtrak have agreed to begin work on a new rail tunnel between New Jersey and Manhattan, the New York Post reported.

Construction on the 800-foot-long “box tunnel” will begin this summer right under Related’s Hudson Yards megaproject and is expected to cost between $120 and $150 million, primarily funded by federal dollars. Sen. Chuck Schumer, who championed the deal, told the Post that it marked “a red-letter day for the future of New York-New Jersey mass transit.” He recognized the agreement as a commitment to a new tunnel for the first time since New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie nixed plans for a $15 billion four-track project in 2010.

The box tunnel cannot be used for train transportation at first; instead, it will serve as a shell for the Manhattan end of the future Hudson tunnel that Amtrak intends to building in the future, as well as for the proposed Moynihan Station.

The box will hold the space for a rail link between the future Hudson tunnel and existing tracks at Penn Station — and for the proposed Moynihan Station if it’s ever built. The construction of the box tunnel was pressing because it could not be carried out once Related had built a deck over the rail yard.

Hudson Yards has been pushing hard to woo corporate tenants and is building a 900-foot, 1.7 million-square-foot office tower that will be the headquarters of Coach.

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Old February 28th, 2013, 10:03 PM   #2189
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Old February 28th, 2013, 11:57 PM   #2190
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Old March 1st, 2013, 12:21 AM   #2191
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Old March 1st, 2013, 01:55 PM   #2192
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That is a very nice hall. I like the structure.
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Old March 1st, 2013, 01:57 PM   #2193
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This looks like such an amazing project, so futuristic, it will change the NY skyline immensly! Extremely beautiful design, I really hope it remains intact and there are no changes.
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Seeking to Capture the Heart of New York

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Opinions may differ on where the heart of New York is, but two developers have set out to make a 26-acre site on Manhattan's West Side a serious contender for the title. The developers, Related Cos. and Oxford Properties Group, have big plans for Hudson Yards, a $15-billion, mixed-use development that will be built on a platform over the Metropolitan Transportation Authority's (MTA) Eastern and Western rail yards. The project, which will span 10 to 12 years, is the largest undeveloped property in Manhattan and the largest private development in New York City since Rockefeller Center.

"Some people consider Rockefeller Center the heart of New York or midtown," says Jay Cross, president of Related Hudson Yards, which is leading Related's development efforts. "But there is enough scale to the [13-million-sq-ft project] that we can really shift the heart of New York."

With the No. 7 Line extension now under way, which will bring subway service close to the area, and a link to the High Line, an elevated freight rail line that has been converted into a park, Hudson Yards provides "a broad palette to build a new community," Cross says.

The JV is seeking to establish a new "right-out-of-the-box" neighborhood, Cross says. "People want something that has a sense of completion about it." To achieve this, the JV aims to have the four towers on the Eastern Rail Yard portion of the site under way by 2014, targeting completion of this portion in 2018. Cross says that each of these towers will have a different use—one commercial office; one commercial office-retail; one office-retail-residential; and one luxury residential—so that they will not compete with each other in the marketplace.

The Eastern Rail Yard consists of the Kohn Pedersen Fox Associates-designed South and North towers, the latter of which is expected to break ground this year; the David M. Childs and Skidmore, Owings & Merrill-designed E tower; the Diller Scofidio + Renfro and Rockwell Group-designed culture tower, both of which are scheduled to break ground in 2014; the Elkus Manfredi Architects-designed retail space; and the Diller Scofidio + Renfro and Rockwell Group-designed culture shed.

No startup dates have been set for the second phase of the project, the Western Rail Yard. This phase will include the West tower, the school and residential and retail space.

At Hudson Yards, Tishman is working with Related as a non-equity partner, assisting with cost strategy to acquire the tenants needed to move the project forward, Badame says.

Some 80% of the space in the 1.7-million-sq-ft South tower has been committed so far, and the developers are in talks with four to five potential tenants for the North tower, Cross says. Once tenants are secured, work can begin on the platform and the North tower, he adds.Tishman is also assisting in obtaining trades and on project labor agreements. It was, in fact, a year-long negotiation of labor agreements that contributed to a delay of the first tower's start date, although it is still on track for completion in 2015, Cross says. Other contributors to the delay were rezoning of a portion of the project in 2009 and the fact that "as the project continued to be marketed, Related had to respond to the needs of tenants, leading to the constant evolution of design," Cross says.

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Thanks for that article.

This is incredibly exciting project. As the article states above the developers seem to have no problem at all getting tenant commitments and I can certainly understand why. The developers outlined a clear plan on when all the phases will be completed.

This brings me to the whole WTC complex. There is uncertainty as far as when all the phases will be completed. We all know Silverstein will build the other towers but when??

This is the problem with the way Silverstein is going about it in my opinion. He should just start with the construction with the other towers because we all know he will eventually fill out the buildings as far as vacancy. Start to complete all the phases of the project instead of doing it in pieces and market the whole shebang!

If I’m a prospective tenant I may select another area in the city because construction on that site will be never ending. As a prospective tenant I may prefer to hold offices in Tower 2 vs. Tower 1 but if there is nothing happening as far as construction then how would I commit to Tower 2 if that is my preference?

Anyway it’s just my Two Cents!
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Old March 7th, 2013, 06:52 PM   #2196
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Thanks for that article.

This is incredibly exciting project. As the article states above the developers seem to have no problem at all getting tenant commitments and I can certainly understand why. The developers outlined a clear plan on when all the phases will be completed.

This brings me to the whole WTC complex. There is uncertainty as far as when all the phases will be completed. We all know Silverstein will build the other towers but when??...

The difference is that Silverstein is not leasing at cost. Related is.
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Old March 7th, 2013, 07:05 PM   #2197
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I did not know that. That is a big difference. Thanks
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Old March 7th, 2013, 07:39 PM   #2198
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Silverstein only needs to charge $60 a square foot for the 400k pre-lease committment to get 3WTC funded. Which is comparable to what is priced at HY. 2WTC is another story though.
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Silverstein only needs to charge $60 a square foot for the 400k pre-lease committment to get 3WTC funded. Which is comparable to what is priced at HY. 2WTC is another story though.
Plus Larry seeks way more than $60 for the rest of T3. He wants to make a lot of sheckels.
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Old March 7th, 2013, 08:02 PM   #2200
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Sorry if this have already been posted but I found this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLedC...098F275D9559B0
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