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Old April 23rd, 2013, 09:47 AM   #2461
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this looks amazing! But I have to say that I still prefer oldschool art deco skyscrapers. Would be nice to see something like that again.
Couldn't agree more Sir.

This thread could be appealing to you, as it also features some example of new Art Deco:
New Buildings Built in Traditional Architecture Style

Special thread for the US (some improper examples as well, but sure better than much of the modernist crap boxes):
The traditional architecture renaissance in the USA - Various examples highlighted


Just one example of consequent "New Art Deco": Main Plaza in Frankfurt, Germany - by renowned architect Hans Kollhoff (more examples of his work)

And another one: Parkview Square, Singapore
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Old April 23rd, 2013, 08:49 PM   #2462
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this looks amazing! But I have to say that I still prefer oldschool art deco skyscrapers. Would be nice to see something like that again.
Hudson Yards District would be the most modern section of our city so i think the modern futuristic look here is perfect.

I do agree though, i would like to see some construction for a skyscraper that would be a little old school. Maybe if the rezoning is approved in Midtown East they can build one there.

At least we have a couple of project that are/will be built that are not the all glass modern towers such as 432 Park and 99 Church which is Art Deco-ish.
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Old April 23rd, 2013, 08:53 PM   #2463
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Hudson Yards District would be the most modern section of our city so i think the modern futuristic look here is perfect.
I think that it will be one of the most modern areas in the world! Maybe only Dubai or Singapore can only be more modern.
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Old April 23rd, 2013, 11:36 PM   #2464
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This would be cool to check out.

"The exhibition kicks off on May 1, with a special set of guided tours by Hudson Yards architects and Related planner Michael Samuelian for Open House New York members on May 4"


Hudson Yards Exhibit Shows Off New Models of Upcoming Neighborhood
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Old April 24th, 2013, 01:30 AM   #2465
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phase 2 will have shorter buildings correct? or are the phase 2 that are in renderings just place holders as of now?
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Old April 24th, 2013, 01:40 AM   #2466
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phase 2 will have shorter buildings correct? or are the phase 2 that are in renderings just place holders as of now?
No Phase 2 will be 1,300 + feet!
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Old April 24th, 2013, 01:51 AM   #2467
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No Phase 2 will be 1,300 + feet!
i dont mean phase 2 of these towers i mean phase 2 of the entire hudson yards project lol
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Old April 24th, 2013, 02:10 AM   #2468
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phase 2 will have shorter buildings correct? or are the phase 2 that are in renderings just place holders as of now?
they are just place holders but i wouldn't expect anything taller than the corset.
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Old April 24th, 2013, 02:11 AM   #2469
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i dont mean phase 2 of these towers i mean phase 2 of the entire hudson yards project lol
Oh my bad lol. I was in transit when i posted. Thats a good question. I hope phase 2 will be exactly like renders.
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Old April 24th, 2013, 03:13 AM   #2470
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i wouldn't be surprised if we see more 250m+ towers out of phase 2, earlier renderings depicted some tall ones, especially the "West Tower"





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Old April 24th, 2013, 04:34 AM   #2471
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The second one matches this one so I think this is what they will do.
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Old April 24th, 2013, 06:37 AM   #2472
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Tip of the Iceberg? Silverstein Wants More Housing at Hudson Yards



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With the 7 train extension set to see its first train at 34th Street and 11th Avenue next June, developers are rushing to line up financing and break ground on millions of square feet in new projects. The New York Times took a look over the weekend at the progress at Hudson Yards, but they buried some news deep within the story: at least one landowner—Silverstein Properties, which owns a 90,000-square foot site at 41st Street and 11th Avenue—wants zoning rules changed to allow it to build more housing and less office space.

For an area with poor transit links, the desire to shift from commercial to residential is not surprising. Though there will be a new subway station at 34th Street and 11th Avenue, successful office locations generally require not only transit, but redundant transit. There are seven different subway stations, for example, along 42nd Street between Fifth and Eighth Avenues. Grand Central has three plus a regional rail terminal, and the Plaza District has around half a dozen, depending on how you define the ritzy submarket. Hudson Yards, on the other hand, will have just one two-track subway, with Penn Station and the Eighth Avenue subway a few long avenue blocks away, at best. Commuters from Queens may have it easy, but there will be no one-seat subway rides from Brooklyn or any of Manhattan’s residential neighborhoods.

While the desirability of housing in New York is also driven by proximity to transit, it relies mainly on access to midtown. Office tenants, by contrast, need transit links to the outer boroughs—a much taller order for out-of-the-way Hudson Yards. And the market seems to be bearing this out: developers are in some stage of building or have already delivered 10,000 of the total 20,000 apartments that the city has planned for Hudson Yards since 2005, according to the Times, while only one office building has broken ground—Related’s tower at 10th Avenue and West 31st Street, where they signed Coach, L’Oreal and SAP as tenants. Extell’s building on 11th Avenue is on hold for want of an anchor tenant, and Moinian’s mixed-use building doesn’t have one either.


Office developers at Hudson Yards get much more space than those who build housing.


And while developers in today’s market will throw up as many apartments as they can, builders have to work much harder to woo office tenants. The city has incentivized office space at Hudson Yards through tax breaks and more liberal zoning allowances, but office space at the World Trade Center is even more subsidized and has better transit access. Developers at Hudson Yards are understandably reluctant to throw up new towers while those in more natural locations—say, Vornado at 15 Penn Plaza—are shelving their plans.

More office towers will eventually join Related’s first in the lower 30s between Penn Station and the new 7 stop on 11th Avenue, with Related aggressively courting tenants for its second, larger building. But it remains to be seen if there will be demand for the string of commercial skyscrapers that the city envisioned rising along Hudson Boulevard, on sites like Silverstein’s which lacks the redeeming proximity to Penn Station.

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Oh my bad lol. I was in transit when i posted. Thats a good question. I hope phase 2 will be exactly like renders.
Now I'm puzzled, what do they call phase 2? The area North of the scissor towers or the area to the West of them
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Old April 24th, 2013, 03:15 PM   #2474
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All the lower towers to the west, between the tallest office towers and the Hudson.
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Old April 24th, 2013, 03:23 PM   #2475
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Ah, okay, thanks for the info
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Those towers will be mostly residential, and they will add a massive amount of new apartments.
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Old April 25th, 2013, 02:53 AM   #2477
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did they ever announce what they're thinking of renting them at?
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Old April 25th, 2013, 04:40 AM   #2478
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I just love this! one of the best proposals to Hit NY in a long time. Even better than the WTC plan if you ask me. Oxford is a great developer as well, they are also building the cheese-grater in London and are currently proposing Toronto's first supertalls in a development that covers train tracks just like this one. This company is amazing, And I hope to see more from them soon.
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Old April 25th, 2013, 03:51 PM   #2479
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http://nycxdesign.com/events/hudson-.../#.UXkSI3XD_Dc

Hudson Yards Speaker Series: A Conversation with William Pedersen, FAIA

May 16 / 6:00 pm–8:00 pm


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Old April 25th, 2013, 08:46 PM   #2480
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did they ever announce what they're thinking of renting them at?
They might just as well sell them given the current housing market.
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