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Old October 29th, 2013, 09:17 PM   #3041
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That actually looks pretty awesome.
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Old October 29th, 2013, 09:42 PM   #3042
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This doesn't look half bad:


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Eiffel-ish, anyway.
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Old October 29th, 2013, 09:53 PM   #3043
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The Eiffel Tower is an immediately recognisable landmark. That thing looks like a power plant. Not bad, sure, but not exactly a world class attraction.
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Heh, yeah, okay you caught me reaching. I don't honestly like most of what I've seen on that site, and virtually none of his work has any verticality, so it's hard to imagine what inspired this pick. Does anyone know if the artists pitched at least the concept of what they would build at the site? I hope the team making the decision saw an actual plan that they liked.
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Old October 29th, 2013, 10:25 PM   #3045
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Heh, yeah, okay you caught me reaching. I don't honestly like most of what I've seen on that site, and virtually none of his work has any verticality, so it's hard to imagine what inspired this pick. Does anyone know if the artists pitched at least the concept of what they would build at the site? I hope the team making the decision saw an actual plan that they liked.
I don't think verticality will be a focus of this sculpture. His seed cathedral (below) cost about $40 million. If the sculpture is $75 million, you can get double the height, which is still not much verticality. Anything taller would be simpler, which would detract from the 'world class status'. So we'll get something short and full of shock value. Some abstract statue of an ostrich fisting a koala and the critics will rave about how it's the second coming of Macchu Picchu. I wouldn't get my hopes up however.



He also designed the longchamp store in Soho

Not bad, but again, not a world class atraction
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Old October 29th, 2013, 10:52 PM   #3046
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This doesn't look half bad:

http://www.heatherwick.com/wp-conten...1-1024x536.jpg
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Eiffel-ish, anyway.
That was a design for a power station, I saw it in a museum and there were models of it too, looked pretty interesting!
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Old October 29th, 2013, 10:58 PM   #3047
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Old October 29th, 2013, 11:02 PM   #3048
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Stephen Ross: "Oh shit, I forgot. How are we supposed to power all these buildings?"
*blank stares all around*

Boom. Thomas Heatherwick, hired. The only obvious choice.
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Old October 29th, 2013, 11:09 PM   #3049
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Does anyone know if the artists pitched at least the concept of what they would build at the site? I hope the team making the decision saw an actual plan that they liked.
Excerpt from the WSJ article:

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Mr. Ross was intensely involved in the selection of an artist to develop a vision for the public space at the core of the development. He personally solicited ideas from such high-profile artists as Jeff Koons, Anish Kapoor, Maya Lin and Richard Serra, according to people familiar with the discussions.

Mr. Koons and Ms. Lin didn't respond to requests for comment. Mr. Kapoor couldn't be reached. Mr. Serra said that at his meeting with Mr. Ross, he told the developer he wasn't "up for" submitting a plan at the same time others were vying for the work, explaining that his process is to see a site and work with engineers as he develops an idea.

According to Mr. Serra, Mr. Ross said, "Will you at least make me a sketch?" Mr. Serra said he declined, saying that wasn't how he worked, and Mr. Ross, disappointed, got up and left the room, ending the meeting.
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Old October 29th, 2013, 11:29 PM   #3050
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Well that answers that. Richard Serra, sticking to his guns. Have to commend that, although that might have cost him a pretty hefty commission, and the potential to create a massive new NYC icon.

Anyway, I wonder if we'll see a sketch of Heatherwick's design any time soon, or if they'll wait for him to develop something once the site is closer to completion.
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Serra's work is awful and predictable. We would have gotten wavy copper tin. I'm glad he's too presumptuous to know he's not that good and refused a damn sketch
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Old October 30th, 2013, 01:34 AM   #3052
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Let hope he designs something better than the "blue" carpet in Newcastle upon Tyne.

*it currently resembles a dirty grey cloth.
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Old October 30th, 2013, 04:11 AM   #3053
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Here's something Heatherwick did that shows a vertical aspect, something that will probably be called for in the Hudson Yards project:



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Old October 30th, 2013, 04:15 AM   #3054
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That's pretty sweet.
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Old October 30th, 2013, 04:36 AM   #3055
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It's not a world class atraction though. It if was, we would all have heard of this "art" before. Most of his work is abstract junk. They should have gotten the Cloud Gate guy
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All his sculptures look like oversized clumps of lint.

I like the statement! They also look like PITA to maintain outdoors.

Just my opinion...
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Old October 30th, 2013, 09:31 PM   #3057
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Well unless you have great eyesight or a telescopic lense, it's hard to tell what exactly is going on right now at the site. There are a bunch of i-beams piled up and plenty of holes being drilled, but no excavation. I noticed construction equipment on the west side of 11th ave today as well.

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Here's something Heatherwick did that shows a vertical aspect, something that will probably be called for in the Hudson Yards project:
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Bleigiessen, Wellcome Trust Headquarters
That would look very cool, especially when lit in the right way.
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Old October 31st, 2013, 02:26 AM   #3059
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Well unless you have great eyesight or a telescopic lense, it's hard to tell what exactly is going on right now at the site. There are a bunch of i-beams piled up and plenty of holes being drilled, but no excavation. I noticed construction equipment on the west side of 11th ave today as well.

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Thanks for the photos & the trip to the 11th Ave viaduct.

North Tower Construction Start when: The 2nd floor of the white LIRR control tower/substation is at photo left, "above" the end of the train. Once that starts coming down is when construction of the north tower really starts.

Excavation within secant pile walls: The way I think this works is they build the secant pile wall around the perimeter of the site to be excavated & THEN they excavate within. The pile wall has steel in the piles (maybe the I-beams you mention), is socketed in the bedrock and might be tied back into the bedrock as they excavate within the perimeter wall. You can't let the soil outside the excavation move because the MTA/LIRR would be very angry if their tracks shifted.

The wall is fairly waterproof so they can pump out the excavation as they excavate below the watertable. They either lift the excavation equipment into the excavation with cranes or create a ramp within the excavation.

Once the excavation gets to bedrock it's rock splitting or blasting to continue down to desired level.

As I've speculated before, they might start using these same drills outside the excavation after the wall is completed to start the platform foundations.

The 2nd floor of the white LIRR control tower/substation is at photo left, "above" the end of the train. Once that starts coming down is when construction of the north tower really starts.

The MTA CC photo below was an easy-to-find one that shows a secant pile wall after the excavation was done and a concrete floor was poured in the resulting trench. I don't see any tiebacks so maybe this wall isn't all that high.

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The wall is created by overlapping the concrete cylinders in an odd/even fashion. The drill winds up cutting through either the odd or even (depending on how you look at it) concrete cylinders as the wall is filled in. This link will give the photos in the MTACC's flickr photostream that have "secant" in the name. Tutor Perini is the contractor for some of these MTACC structures also. It' also a similar application, trenching for NEW RR tracks within an existing RR yard.

http://www.flickr.com/search/[email protected]&q=secant

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This is one of his few traditional sculptures I could find. I am confident he will produce something great here.

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