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Old December 17th, 2013, 08:46 PM   #3421
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Old December 17th, 2013, 09:22 PM   #3422
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London and Tokyo are the biggest cities in their countries, by a mile, but they have stronger links to the region they are in. London competes with Paris and Berlin and Moscow, cities that are as geographically far away as LA is from NYC.

Tokyo also is right at the heart of Asia, and competes with Beijing and Singapore and so on.

Plus, it's a little silly to say that London and Tokyo are only 'big' because of a lack of local competition. New York City is younger than my high school, while London and Tokyo have literally thousands of years of history. London has been the most populous city in the world for a lot longer than New York. And the richest. And the most important.

You need more than a hundred years of good luck and a few big towers under your belt before you start making claims to greatness.
While I do not agree with the prior poster's comments, yours are somewhat misleading. London is not an ancient metropolis. Its population in 1600, at which time NY was first being settled, was 200,000. Its population in 1,200 was 20,000. thus, it wad a tiny village by today's standards, and there simply was no culture during this Dark Age. London of today bears nothing in common with the London of a mere 400 years ago, let alone the London of 2,000 years ago. Thus, it s absurd to equate London's current greatness with its millennia of history. Indeed, London has been a great city for about 350 years -- not 2,000.

I happen to regard London as the world's top city, but it is not an ancient metropolis like Rome.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 09:40 PM   #3423
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We don't need a few big towers to make any claims of greatness. NYC already is, but since NYC and Chicago is where all the skyscraper basically began, there is no hurt having a few more!

NYC does not have to try to be any city to be great, but as far as I can tell, all the cities in the world strive to be like NYC except Paris.

London & NYC are both great cities and are in the same league and I love both (of course NYC more)... I think I may love Paris a little more ironically than both NYC and London! #truth

Side note:

If NYC Metro is a country, it would have the 13th largest economy in the face of the earth and I'm pretty sure London is not far behind a notch below.

Which U.S. Cities Have Economies Bigger Than Entire Countries?
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2013/...reaming_stream
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Old December 17th, 2013, 09:42 PM   #3424
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Some HuYa vids.. They are not up to date but worth a watch.

Phase two, Western Yards


Public art and the piazza


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Hudson Yards New York - "Build Up"
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Old December 18th, 2013, 12:25 AM   #3425
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I am not sure that the height has been reduced. Related's website keeps changing the height for all of the buildings, except this one which is still listed at 1,337.

35 HY is listed again at 950' -- not 1,000, and 15 HY is listed at 915' -- not 870'. Moreover, I firmly believe that the design of 35 HY is not final.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 12:53 AM   #3426
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^

Figures where never changed except for 15 HuYa in the website as far as height figures since they made the address change. The funny thing is on the map that they gave at the exhibition, 35 & 30 HuYa changed but 15 HuYa remained at 870ft & now everything is status quo except 15 HuYa on their website. Go figure.

I dunno what to believe at this point.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 12:57 AM   #3427
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I beg they don't change 35HYs design, it's my favourite one for the complex!
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Old December 18th, 2013, 02:11 AM   #3428
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Cute exhibit girl said 1255'. Would she lie to us? Would she???
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Old December 18th, 2013, 03:45 AM   #3429
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I showed up at the exhibit that morning it opened and that cute chickadee did not know the height of 30 HuYa when I asked. She said she has the map and the info would be there and gave me the same map we had all seen with new address names and height figures.

She was cute and I did not want to appear that I knew more than her in front of other people so I acted like a tourist and asked her touristy dumb things. Lol
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I was there on the first day too around 1230. What time were you there?
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I was there on the first day too around 1230. What time were you there?
Around 9:45 - 10
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Old December 18th, 2013, 03:58 AM   #3432
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I was there on the first day too around 1230. What time were you there?
You think the design might change with 35 Hudson?? I'm with Stig and hope the design doesn't change. I like the new version much better. I think it will look impressive being 1,000ft in its new form.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 04:52 AM   #3433
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I am so confused by all the Hudson Yards building names now... so hard to keep them straight.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 05:00 AM   #3434
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Same here, I'm slowly learning all the addresses. I've got Coach, North, and E memorized now.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 07:42 AM   #3435
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I imagine they'll all make a lot more sense when Phase II begins. The southern buildings will likely all be in the 16-19 range, the middle buildings will probably be 20 and 25, and the northern buildings will likely be... 36-49? Okay, as I talk it out to myself, it doesn't seem like any of it's going to make that much sense.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 08:19 AM   #3436
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The latest model obviously had different heights to the buildings as well as design changes but who even knows at this point.

It would be awesome if it was still 1337' AND 35 got raised to over 1000

wishful thinking
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Old December 18th, 2013, 06:00 PM   #3437
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here's a serious question for you all.

What would you guys prefer if we can't have both, 30 Hudson @ 1,337ft and 35 Hudson @ 1,000 ft?

A)
30 Hudson @ 1337 ft
35 Hudson @ 950 ft (old design)
15 Hudson @ 870 ft

B)
30 Hudson @ 1255 ft
35 Hudson @ 1000 ft (new design)
15 Hudson @ 915 ft

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Old December 18th, 2013, 06:05 PM   #3438
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Old December 18th, 2013, 07:32 PM   #3439
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Assuming old also includes the original One Hudson Yards by Extell, definitely old.

55 is going to be embarrassed by 30, 50, Girasole, and Sherwood. Totally out of place.
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I'd rather have option B

I liked the old design of 35 Hudson from some angles, but from others I thought it was ugly

However the new design is more consistent and I LOVE the spiral facade as well as the materials and colours, and the square to circular design.

One day when I'm a millionaire architect I will live there
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