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Old April 11th, 2011, 06:28 AM   #341
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Wow more boxes for box city how boring.... perhaps they will put a needle on the top this time so they can claim a top 10 supertall.
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Old April 11th, 2011, 08:02 AM   #342
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Old April 11th, 2011, 09:55 AM   #343
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Yeah, it will be built in phases, this is their general plan, credit to NYGuy from SSP on the pictures

The new train station is a huge draw, as is the huge amount of park space, the 42nd street pedestrian boulevard, and the towers on the north side of the development that overlook the Javits Center have basically an eternal view of the Hudson and Jersey.
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I see this render showing a lot of open spaces between towers, virtually a green corridor that provides unobstructed views on either direction.
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Old April 11th, 2011, 02:11 PM   #344
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Wow more boxes for box city how boring.... perhaps they will put a needle on the top this time so they can claim a top 10 supertall.
These towers are hardly boxes.
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Old April 13th, 2011, 04:08 AM   #345
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China been around for over 3,000 years and there just catching up to us. Now go troll somewhere else
for most of those 3000 years china has had a greater civilization than the whites lol
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Old April 13th, 2011, 04:54 AM   #346
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Wow more boxes for box city how boring.... perhaps they will put a needle on the top this time so they can claim a top 10 supertall.
If a commercial office developer in NYC is allowed a boxy development envelope, they will usually build out to the full dimensions to earn as much revenue from as much floor space as possible. That's why so many towers in NY are boxy. In other US cities, there's less pressure to maximize income and they can play around with the forms a bit -but not in NYC where costs are as much as 50% higher. Setbacks, spires, and crowns belong to the 1916 building code. Developers and planners are still (mostly) working from the 1961 codes that allowed solid base to roof envelopes in exchange for crappy windswept plazas or some other ammenity. Don't blame the architects or really even the developers, blame the city planners.
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Old April 13th, 2011, 05:04 AM   #347
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This development is crying out for some kind of signature tower, like the crystal tower originally proposed. I fear all the towers will be around the same height and look very boxy/bulky (box city, anyone?), around 1000-1200 feet without one standout tower to anchor the site. You don't want a massive mass of boxy towers all massed together, all with roofs around the same height.

Of course, there is no guidelines demanding a signature tower, so i'll expect more boxes around the site.

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Old April 13th, 2011, 08:59 AM   #348
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for most of those 3000 years china has had a greater civilization than the whites lol
I believed he was referring to skyscrapers and not civilizations.
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Old April 13th, 2011, 09:01 AM   #349
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If a commercial office developer in NYC is allowed a boxy development envelope, they will usually build out to the full dimensions to earn as much revenue from as much floor space as possible. That's why so many towers in NY are boxy. In other US cities, there's less pressure to maximize income and they can play around with the forms a bit -but not in NYC where costs are as much as 50% higher. Setbacks, spires, and crowns belong to the 1916 building code. Developers and planners are still (mostly) working from the 1961 codes that allowed solid base to roof envelopes in exchange for crappy windswept plazas or some other ammenity. Don't blame the architects or really even the developers, blame the city planners.

So true. Manhattan land values are premium.

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Old April 13th, 2011, 05:50 PM   #350
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This development is crying out for some kind of signature tower, like the crystal tower originally proposed. I fear all the towers will be around the same height and look very boxy/bulky (box city, anyone?), around 1000-1200 feet without one standout tower to anchor the site. You don't want a massive mass of boxy towers all massed together, all with roofs around the same height.

Of course, there is no guidelines demanding a signature tower, so i'll expect more boxes around the site.
I will gladly take a 1200 foot plateau with the main building here, the main MW building, and 15 Penn which are hardly just big boxes, and then a handful of surrounding 1000 footers, with then even more surrounding buildings in 500-900 foot range. In retrospect, it's really a nice problem to have, and I think you're overstating it.

In regard to a signature tower, there are other surrounding sites like 366 10th ave, and two 9th ave sites, that are zoned for tall buildings but don't have designs. There's plenty more to come.
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Old April 14th, 2011, 03:21 AM   #351
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Old April 14th, 2011, 03:34 AM   #352
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Wow more boxes for box city how boring.... perhaps they will put a needle on the top this time so they can claim a top 10 supertall.
Maybe they build some boxes in your city but they probably won't.

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I'm not white so I don't care.
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Old April 14th, 2011, 05:17 AM   #353
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Sorry I meant to post in the Kingdom Tower thread.

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Old April 17th, 2011, 10:28 PM   #354
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I much prefer the taller, thinner NY-version to its shorter, fatter cousin in London which KPF also designed.

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Old April 17th, 2011, 11:10 PM   #355
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it'll be fun to watch more towers rise around midtown

Edit: Those renders look alot like 10 Upper Bank Street in London


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Old April 20th, 2011, 07:58 AM   #356
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AWESOME SKYSCRAPERS.but wrong location this would wreck the new york skyline.because it blocks the empire state buliding. would look better in sydney or dubai or shanghi
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Old April 20th, 2011, 10:37 AM   #357
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Yeah, I know, obviously it should be built on Mars because that's the only right location because then it can't block anything there.
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Old April 20th, 2011, 05:00 PM   #358
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I just love skyscrapers. I think they should build a skyscraper ON TOP OF the Empire State Building.
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Old April 23rd, 2011, 01:24 PM   #359
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I just love skyscrapers. I think they should build a skyscraper ON TOP OF the Empire State Building.
I heard you like skyscrapers...
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I heard you like skyscrapers...
I certainly do! And somebody told me that skyscrapercity was about skyscrapers!
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