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Old March 14th, 2014, 07:35 PM   #3681
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Hudson Yards just want Chicago's bean anyway. They don't want an Eiffel Tower. That's bullshit. They want an ornament people will take photographs in front of. A thing that will be used in movies. They just want people standing around outside the Hudson Yards so that the area quickly gentrifies. The buildings themselves are monumental enough, so there's no need for some striking piece of avant-garde architecture.

Perhaps they are worried the Hudson Yards are going to be just too boring. Little more than blue shards of ice jutting out of west Manhattan. I mean, as much as I have gotten used to the Gherkin, I'd imagine the Hudson towers would blend into my skyline an awful lot quicker. They're not going to win any architectural awards either, so the developers are being smart. They want that bit of fizzle to define the area. Just like Millennium Park or the thing they're going to build outside Battersea power station.
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Old March 14th, 2014, 07:46 PM   #3682
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I'll bet the entire claim that it'll rival the Eiffel Tower is marketing BS.
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Old March 14th, 2014, 07:49 PM   #3683
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I'll bet the entire claim that it'll rival the Eiffel Tower is marketing BS.
What, you don't think they're gonna build a 320m structure in the plaza!?

Whatever it is, I'm sure it will at least be attractive...and it does seem that they're thinking about a water feature rather than simply a structure or art piece (unless the early renders were just random).
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Old March 14th, 2014, 10:11 PM   #3684
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Here's how wrong you are:

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This much.
Maybe that one would be number 3... But the Statue of Liberty and the Eiffel Tower are more famous...
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Old March 14th, 2014, 10:20 PM   #3685
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Here's a list of T&L's World Most popular landmarks in 2012
http://www.travelandleisure.com/arti...ar-landmarks/1

Of course all is debatable, but in terms of popularity the Liberty is tops surprisingly over the Eiffel Tower.
LoL... funny how people put structures from Rio and stuff...

first of all was talking only about NY and Paris.

you are right is debatable which is more popular... but it terms of which is the most recognizable Statue of Liberty is above ESB or Brooklyn Bridge. Is not that hard to mistake Brooklyn Bridge with Manhattan Bridge, even ESB with Chrysler (even if they don't look very much alike) you show a pic with Chrysler to a person not really into architecture and say it is ESB, a lot of them would say "well... I guess..." - but Statue of Liberty is unmistakeable.
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Old March 14th, 2014, 11:03 PM   #3686
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LoL... funny how people put structures from Rio and stuff...

first of all was talking only about NY and Paris.

you are right is debatable which is more popular... but it terms of which is the most recognizable Statue of Liberty is above ESB or Brooklyn Bridge. Is not that hard to mistake Brooklyn Bridge with Manhattan Bridge, even ESB with Chrysler (even if they don't look very much alike) you show a pic with Chrysler to a person not really into architecture and say it is ESB, a lot of them would say "well... I guess..." - but Statue of Liberty is unmistakeable.
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Old March 14th, 2014, 11:19 PM   #3687
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LoL... funny how people put structures from Rio and stuff...

first of all was talking only about NY and Paris.

you are right is debatable which is more popular... but it terms of which is the most recognizable Statue of Liberty is above ESB or Brooklyn Bridge. Is not that hard to mistake Brooklyn Bridge with Manhattan Bridge, even ESB with Chrysler (even if they don't look very much alike) you show a pic with Chrysler to a person not really into architecture and say it is ESB, a lot of them would say "well... I guess..." - but Statue of Liberty is unmistakeable.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone ever confuse the ESB for the Chrysler. It's absolutely the other way around. People think the Chrysler is the Empire State because the Empire State is one of the most recognizable and well-known buildings ever built. Certainly outside of western societies.

ESB isn't just a symbol of New York, or a symbol of America. It's a symbol of the twentieth century. Just as the Duomo signifies the Renaissance, ESB is a touchstone for an entire era of human civilization.

Maybe in America the Statue of Liberty is more iconic. Because you can dress up as her, I guess. But around the world, in every corner of the globe, people know the Empire State Building. King Kong didn't climb up the Chrysler Building now, did he?
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Old March 14th, 2014, 11:27 PM   #3688
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That's what luci was sayig... most people would say that the Chrysler Building is the ESB!

And to the people wanting a shiny bean or whatever... I'd much rather have more original; I'm hoping for some fantastic water feature with waterfalls and stuff; hopefully something very natural looking?
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Old March 15th, 2014, 12:33 AM   #3689
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Well B of the Bang is in a warehouse somewhere in Manchester. If you want it, you can have it. It's pretty good. Would probably save a lot of money that Related could put into, I don't know, a hedge or something. Maybe even a tree or two.
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Old March 15th, 2014, 06:33 PM   #3690
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The most internationally known landmarks are:

Eiffel Tower
Statute of Lib
Big Ben
Empire State
Chrysler
Hollywood sign
Arc de Triomphe
Brooklyn Bridge
Tower at St Marks Sq in Venice
St Basils in Moscow
Christ Statue in Rio
Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem
Pyramids and Sphynx
I'd say those two are grossly under-ranked, but overall a pretty good list.
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Old March 15th, 2014, 07:01 PM   #3691
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The most internationally known landmarks are:

Eiffel Tower
Statute of Lib
Big Ben
Empire State
Chrysler
Hollywood sign
Arc de Triomphe
Brooklyn Bridge
Tower at St Marks Sq in Venice
St Basils in Moscow
Christ Statue in Rio
Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem
Pyramids and Sphynx
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Old March 15th, 2014, 07:03 PM   #3692
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i agree on empire state building, but totally disagree on the chrysler building, i do not think many people in my area would recognize the building, in the united states maybe, but outside i doubt it.
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Old March 15th, 2014, 09:37 PM   #3693
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i agree on empire state building, but totally disagree on the chrysler building, i do not think many people in my area would recognize the building, in the united states maybe, but outside i doubt it.
Not just Crysler building is internationally recognized easily

also that famous PAN AM building.
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Old March 15th, 2014, 09:38 PM   #3694
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This list is incomplete

because

Taj Mahal is missing.


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The most internationally known landmarks are:

Eiffel Tower
Statute of Lib
Big Ben
Empire State
Chrysler
Hollywood sign
Arc de Triomphe
Brooklyn Bridge
Tower at St Marks Sq in Venice
St Basils in Moscow
Christ Statue in Rio
Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem
Pyramids and Sphynx
Roman Coliseum
Parthenon
Great Wall
Times Square
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Old March 15th, 2014, 10:01 PM   #3695
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You missed The White House, the US capitol, Sydney Opera House, tower bridge, Champs Elysee, and Golden Gate Bridge, St. Peters, Ginza lights, HK skyline, Tiananmen square, Dubai Palm, Louvre Pyramid, Burj Khailfa, CN Tower.
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Old March 15th, 2014, 10:40 PM   #3696
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Good point re Sydney Opera House and the Golden Gate, I disagree re: the Bund.
Very few people would know it.
White House?
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How on earth did this thread turn into famous monuments for the last two pages? I'm guessing I missed something.
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Old March 16th, 2014, 12:42 AM   #3698
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You missed The White House, the US capitol, Sydney Opera House, tower bridge, Champs Elysee, and Golden Gate Bridge, St. Peters, Ginza lights, HK skyline, Tiananmen square, Dubai Palm, Louvre Pyramid, Burj Khailfa, CN Tower.
So we're putting whole skylines as a landmark now?
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Old March 16th, 2014, 01:26 AM   #3699
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How on earth did this thread turn into famous monuments for the last two pages? I'm guessing I missed something.
Related want a world famous landmark as the centrepiece of the Hudson Yards.

Whole lot of people started pulling opinions out of their asses over what the world's most famous landmark is.

Nobody's posted anything close to resembling hard data yet.

So this discussion is basically 'who would win in a fight, Batman or Superman?'
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Related want a world famous landmark as the centrepiece of the Hudson Yards.

Whole lot of people started pulling opinions out of their asses over what the world's most famous landmark is.

Nobody's posted anything close to resembling hard data yet.

So this discussion is basically 'who would win in a fight, Batman or Superman?'
Lighten up.
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