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Old March 16th, 2014, 04:59 AM   #3701
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St. Louis Arch, Alamo, Seattle Space Needle, Astrodome... there are tons of them. What there doesn't seem to be is a thread for them.
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Old March 16th, 2014, 07:31 AM   #3702
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Those definitely are not universally known.
The Alamo is. Texas greatest country in the universe. These off topic hypothetical discussions are back to the forums again! I wonder why. Ps don't bother replying/quoting this comment douchebag I won't reply
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Old March 16th, 2014, 07:40 AM   #3703
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Of that list, The Chrysler Building I don't think would classify as one the most universally recognized structures. For the common people, more often than not, it is misidentified as the ESB.

The Brooklyn Bridge I don't think belong to this list either, It is hardly on the league of the Golden Gate, it is surely very iconic accompaniedby the NY skyline as a backdrop, but not so much by itself. (not that it is not recognizable, just that I don't think it is on a list of the MOST recognizable structures) Of New York, on that list the Twin Towers definitely belonged to. It is very possible that in the next years 1WTC will enter on the list, but if it would end up being as recognizable as the twins, is yet to be seen.

Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, seriously? I had to google it to remember what it was. If we talk about Israel, I think that the Wailing Wall is far more recognizable. If we talk about religiuos structures, some that could be in this list and are definitely waaay above of the Dome of the Rock are Hagia Sophia, St. Peters and Notre Dame.

St Marks in Venice, not sure if it is in the same league of the others, But I could give the benefit of doubt.

Burj Khalifa, being the taller building of the world and having appeared in blockbusters such as Mission Impossible, if it is not in the list yet is quite near.

Also missing some very recognizable and iconic structures such as US Capitol and moreover The Washington Monument, both screams Washington DC and United States.



To stay on topic, I agree that claiming that wathever they do here will be as the Eiffel Tower is plainly ridiculous. It would be more like the Rockefeller Center's Christmas Three, something were the tourists will photograph with or something, one more among many other choices, that will be shown on some movies or TV series, with their characters walking by, to proof or show they are in New York.

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Old March 16th, 2014, 07:52 AM   #3704
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The Alamo is. Texas greatest country in the universe. These off topic hypothetical discussions are back to the forums again! I wonder why. Ps don't bother replying/quoting this comment douchebag I won't reply
Then why throw a cheap shot if ur not willing to engage afterwards? That's a prick move only a pussy would make. Cheers.
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Old March 16th, 2014, 09:07 AM   #3705
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This much.
That's so tacky. If I ran Rio I'd dismantle that and put something else there. Like almost anything else.
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Old March 16th, 2014, 03:29 PM   #3706
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Cristo Redentor is tacky? That's where this discussion has gone? Pack it up, gentlemen, this is what they call rock bottom.
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Old March 16th, 2014, 04:49 PM   #3707
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Really! This thread isn't even supposed to be about the monument they are building, but rather the 20 Hudson Yard's Tower.
Who would have thought that a New York skyscraper thread could so quickly be turned into a discussion of the merits of monuments around the world?
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Old March 16th, 2014, 07:27 PM   #3708
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I took a video on Friday of the tunnel box construction. It almost seems like they've decided to forgo explosives altogether, just slowly chipping way with the excavators.

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Old March 16th, 2014, 10:04 PM   #3709
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How on earth did this thread turn into famous monuments for the last two pages? I'm guessing I missed something.
too few real news I guess.
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Old March 16th, 2014, 10:26 PM   #3710
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The most internationally known landmarks are, in no particular order, as follows:
Eiffel Tower
Statute of Lib
Big Ben
Empire State
Chrysler
Hollywood sign
Arc de Triomphe
Brooklyn Bridge
Tower at St Marks Sq in Venice
St Basils in Moscow
Christ Statue in Rio
Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem
Pyramids and Sphynx
Roman Coliseum
Parthenon
Great Wall
Times Square
Taj Mahal
Sydney Opera House
Golden Gate Bridge
Just how can you put ESB or Brooklyn Bridge above St Basils or Pyramids?! I swear, most of the people I know just can't distinguish it from other towers and bridges... Blah!
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Old March 16th, 2014, 10:39 PM   #3711
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Just how can you put ESB or Brooklyn Bridge above St Basils or Pyramids?! I swear, most of the people I know just can't distinguish it from other towers and bridges... Blah!
Because it's in No Particular Order :cheers;
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Old March 17th, 2014, 12:02 AM   #3712
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I don't think that the typical person in India, Africa, etc would be able to identify the Burj, Palm, or CN. Similarly, if shown a photo of the Sears/Willis Tower, eg, I don't think that the typical person in Calcutta, Xian, or Nairobi could specifically identify it, whereas everyone knows the Statue of Lib, Eiffel, and Big Ben.

Anyway, Related is full of it when they say that this will be as universally recognizable as the Eiffel Tower. Let's hope that it's nice. I think that Heatherwick's Olympic Cauldron is ugly, and his other works are quite odd. This will be a modern work and not a Piazza Navona like Ross suggested.
I agree the Statue of Lib, Eiffel, and Big Ben should be on there but I think more people internationally could identify Sears/Willis Tower over the Chrysler Building. Worlds tallest building for 25 years vs. a pretty crown.
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Old March 17th, 2014, 12:12 AM   #3713
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I seriously doubt that.
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Old March 17th, 2014, 05:33 AM   #3714
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The methodology of the darn study showed a photograph of a site, asked the respondent if they recognized it and whether or not they'd visited. Sites that were recognized and visited were scored higher.

To be sure of any selection bias, one would need to know the list of sites they showed them. The survey is no longer live, so this argument is really moot (and getting annoying).
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Old March 17th, 2014, 08:22 AM   #3715
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3.14.14

No work at the North Tower location yet.
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...but platform work has started.
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Old March 17th, 2014, 08:23 AM   #3716
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...and work on the tunnel continues.
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Old March 17th, 2014, 04:43 PM   #3717
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Awesome update! It's really cool to see where the retaining wall ends and the bedrock begins. They're getting deep fast.

Does anybody recall how deep they have to go for the tunnel box? solgoldberg, I'm looking at you.
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Old March 17th, 2014, 05:33 PM   #3718
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Great photos!

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Awesome update! It's really cool to see where the retaining wall ends and the bedrock begins. They're getting deep fast.

Does anybody recall how deep they have to go for the tunnel box? solgoldberg, I'm looking at you.

Great photos.

The November 2012 study shows the bottom green line of the tunnel box ~55 feet below "Aprox. Top existing Ground" at the 11th Ave end of the tunnel. It's less than 40 feet at the 10th Ave end:

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Old March 17th, 2014, 05:33 PM   #3719
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Deep enough that we're gonna need a Balrog exterminator to sweep the area.
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Old March 17th, 2014, 08:20 PM   #3720
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Thanks, I knew you'd have that at the ready.

It looks like they really don't have that much further to go, which is super exciting. My guess is that the quicker this goes, the sooner they can break ground on 15 HY.
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