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Old April 10th, 2014, 12:10 AM   #3781
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It (Cylindrical Tower aka 35 Hudson) doesn't look like the same height to 30 Hudson Yards to me. if anything it looks to be the same height as the observation deck which will be 1,080' high.

The way the luxury residential market is right now, it would make sense to increase the height for 35 Hudson Yards. Higher floors = more $$$.

Based on the latest renderings and models by Related, it does suggest that 35 Hudson looks taller and ultimately we may very well see a height increase officially.
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Old April 10th, 2014, 02:01 PM   #3782
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I always find it hard to interpret models like these because the perspective isn't ideal.
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Old April 10th, 2014, 07:47 PM   #3783
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35 Hudson definitely looks to be just short with 30 Hudson’s observation deck at 1080’
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Old April 10th, 2014, 08:07 PM   #3784
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30 Hudson Yards looks much more slender there!

Have they dropped the setback below the observation deck?
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Old April 14th, 2014, 07:18 PM   #3785
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The latest perk of your New York luxury condo: Sensors, sensors everywhere
http://venturebeat.com/2014/04/14/th...rs-everywhere/

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It’s one thing to install connected devices in your house. But things can get more interesting when such devices sit all around your neighborhood.

Hudson Yards, a major mixed-use real estate project on Manhattan’s West Side, will be outfitted with sensors, to give residents and workers accurate information on metrics like energy use, air quality, and foot traffic.

Two groups working on Hudson Yards’ development, Related Companies and Oxford Properties Group, are implementing the data project in cooperation with the Center for Urban Science and Progress at New York University, according to a press release.

Hudson Yards stands out in the world of real estate development. It will cost billions to construct. It will come with Wi-Fi access in the public spaces, an on-site natural gas cogeneration facility, an organic-waste collection system, and other features. Real-time monitoring could further make it an appealing place to move into for people and businesses.

Deploying a bevy of sensors, setting up infrastructure to store and analyze the data from those sensors, and writing applications to display the data won’t come for free. But if the project turns out to be a hit and other commercial and residential real estate developers make similar moves in future build-outs, the prices for such extras could drop. And over time, people in neighborhoods could vote to retrofit their common streets with such equipment.

Technology giants like IBM and Cisco have been looking to capitalize on the burgeoning Internet-of-things movement and provide the infrastructure for collection and analysis of data.

The Hudson Yards project could be a fine target for such companies. Now they’ll be looking out for more developers who believe in the appeal of instrumenting their sites with sensors.
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Old April 15th, 2014, 02:40 AM   #3786
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Old April 15th, 2014, 05:16 AM   #3787
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Amazing pictures ILNY! I see you didn't let the barrier stop you from getting up close to the action.

I see a rail-riding truck is on the scene, that's pretty exciting. And the tunnel box on the east end is making serious progress!
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Old April 15th, 2014, 05:46 AM   #3788
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Thanks j-biz, ....what barrier?
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Old April 15th, 2014, 01:41 PM   #3789
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nice POV anyway, with good overview.
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Old April 15th, 2014, 07:47 PM   #3790
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rendering on Related's website, article from The New York Times

Huge New York Development Project Becomes a Data Science Lab

By STEVE LOHR

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the sprawling development on Manhattan’s West Side, built on top of old rail yards along the Hudson River, will also become an urban laboratory for data science. The developers, Related Companies and Oxford Properties Group, are teaming up with New York University’s Center for Urban Science and Progress to create a “quantified community.”
The people aren’t there yet; the first office tower is scheduled to open next year, and the first residential building in 2017. But the plan is extraordinary in its size and comprehensive approach, built in from the outset. Among the things expected to be measured and modeled: pedestrian flows, street traffic, air quality, energy use, waste disposal, recycling, and health and activity levels of workers and residents.
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So a testbed for future government surveillance methods? **** that.
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Old April 15th, 2014, 09:31 PM   #3792
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So a testbed for future government surveillance methods? **** that.
it's a study by NYU.
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Old April 15th, 2014, 11:19 PM   #3793
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it's a study by NYU.
The results of which will undoubtedly be cited as a reason to roll out the scheme across the rest of the city.
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Old April 15th, 2014, 11:26 PM   #3794
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Good photos

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Amazing pictures ILNY! I see you didn't let the barrier stop you from getting up close to the action.

I see a rail-riding truck is on the scene, that's pretty exciting. And the tunnel box on the east end is making serious progress!
Thanks for the pictures ILNY!

I found the scale of the excavation (relative to the people inside) at the east end to be larger than I expected: I think the actual tunnel/concrete casing will go within that excavation and be smaller of course.

Perhaps the excavation at the east end is that large because it will also include the foundations for the rebuilt LIRR MOE building AND the retail plaza on top of that. But that's just a guess.
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Old April 16th, 2014, 12:52 AM   #3796
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The results of which will undoubtedly be cited as a reason to roll out the scheme across the rest of the city.
Related is billing the HY as a cutting-edge, 21st Century development. Many tenants are interested in technologically sophisticated offices and residences, because they're greener, and because the quality of life is better. And each new project they undertake will be better designed for the consumer, and more efficient, using the data culled from this testbed.

The developer also stands to profit from the data gathered here on this and future projects from that efficiency standpoint -- as one of the country's largest landlords, applying smart technology could save them millions of dollars a year on power consumption, waste disposal and other utilities.

Take off the tin foil hat. Big Data is the future and frankly, the government you're paranoid about doesn't pay well enough to employ those that know how to use it.
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Old April 16th, 2014, 05:04 PM   #3797
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Can't wait to see these cluster of towers. This decade is an exciting time for huge developments.
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Old April 17th, 2014, 05:46 PM   #3798
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North tower has 50% more steel than in 1 WTC

I've reposted a comment from the 10 HY thread about the North tower into this, the 30 HY/"North tower" thread

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no. its steel.

it has about 50% more steel in it than 1WTC.
-thejacko5, in the 10 HY thread

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=621

I'm assuming that the 10 HY base will have a LOT of steel because of how it straddles the RR tracks & switches at the "throat" (10th Ave end) of the LIRR West Side Storage Yard.

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Old April 18th, 2014, 04:54 AM   #3799
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This is the most non-NY tower going up in NY. It's more like an Asian style tower. Even tower Verre is more NY-like than this. I'm glad to see NYC is going for something more foreign looking for its future neighborhood as it makes the dull 432 park and Nordstrom's dull proposal not as hard to swallow. The only issue is the fat base and height reduction which hinders the gracefulness factor since the proportions look a little too squat for the bulk.
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This is the most non-NY tower going up in NY. It's more like an Asian style tower. Even tower Verre is more NY-like than this. I'm glad to see NYC is going for something more foreign looking for its future neighborhood as it makes the dull 432 park and Nordstrom's dull proposal not as hard to swallow. The only issue is the fat base and height reduction which hinders the gracefulness factor since the proportions look a little too squat for the bulk.
I kinda agree, I think the new WTC is foreign looking though. Not in a bad way, NY is a mix of so many different styles.

This building should probably be under construction by the end of the year right? This is one of my favorite projects in NYC!
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