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Old April 18th, 2014, 04:43 PM   #3801
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I kinda agree, I think the new WTC is foreign looking though. Not in a bad way, NY is a mix of so many different styles.

This building should probably be under construction by the end of the year right? This is one of my favorite projects in NYC!
Tutor Perini has a 24-hr building permit, but I think they will be working on the foundations of 30 HY by the end of the year, at most. There's a lot of caissons that need to be drilled and T-P has limited work windows in the active rail yard area. AFAIK, T-P also has to be build a new control tower for the rail yard so that they can remove the 2nd floor of the LIRR building that will remain under the 30 HY site. And here's some recent commentary by jacko5 regarding the 30HY base: "there are massive transfer trusses at the base where the tower sits over the rail yard. very complex."

This snip from a GIF gives a VERY crude representation of where T-P MIGHT be by the end of this year. 30 HY will go in the upper right of the blue shaded area:



And here's an article on the noise impact from 24-hr construction, with a very short video clip of the construction noise:

http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/2014...r-hudson-yards

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Old April 21st, 2014, 10:41 PM   #3802
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I have the yards paper model and its awesome I need to scale it to my city
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 03:55 PM   #3803
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Related is billing the HY as a cutting-edge, 21st Century development. Many tenants are interested in technologically sophisticated offices and residences, because they're greener, and because the quality of life is better. And each new project they undertake will be better designed for the consumer, and more efficient, using the data culled from this testbed.

The developer also stands to profit from the data gathered here on this and future projects from that efficiency standpoint -- as one of the country's largest landlords, applying smart technology could save them millions of dollars a year on power consumption, waste disposal and other utilities.

Take off the tin foil hat. Big Data is the future and frankly, the government you're paranoid about doesn't pay well enough to employ those that know how to use it.
A year ago, suggesting the government was spying on everyone in America would be labelled as tin foil hat thinking, and dismissed just as easily. Now look where we are.

It's not paranoia anymore to question the motives of large data collection activities.

I'm fine with them measuring traffic flow. And pollution levels. And all the other civic responsibilities.

But worker health and the activity of residents is either dangerously vague or overtly big brother. You choose which.

Especially when, as you said, the biggest benefits are to big business and their bottom line. What's a little information gathering when it could save them millions?
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 09:35 PM   #3804
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Aaaaand they're still digging. It's really deep on the 11th Ave side.



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Old April 22nd, 2014, 10:06 PM   #3805
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Aaaaand they're still digging. It's really deep on the 11th Ave side.
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Impressive excavation in rock. Looks like they are building structure (invert slab rebar?) in the bottom of the eastern end of the excavation. Maybe actual structure of the tunnel's concrete casing?
Thanks for the photos.
Looks like you were able to avoid the barrier on the east sidewalk?

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Old April 22nd, 2014, 10:10 PM   #3806
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2024: Still digging.
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 10:22 PM   #3807
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2024: Still digging.
Thanks, that made me chuckle.

If "they" are still digging in 2024, I hope it will be for the actual Amtrak Gateway Project tunnel UNDER the Hudson River.

Tutor-Perini is also the prime for the overall HY project, so they are incentivized to get Amtrak's tunnel casing finished & the LIRR MOE building rebuilt so that they can start building the overbuild platform & retail podium above.

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Old April 22nd, 2014, 10:24 PM   #3808
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Hudson Yards - Tomorrow's City Today (click in link)
http://www.fastcoexist.com/3029255/b...fied-community


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Old April 22nd, 2014, 11:20 PM   #3809
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Looks like you were able to avoid the barrier on the east sidewalk?
Haha, yea I was being a bit of a wimp about it before.
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Old April 28th, 2014, 11:53 PM   #3810
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Some great pictures from this article. All photos taken on April 17th, © AP Photo/Bebeto Matthews.





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Old April 29th, 2014, 01:39 PM   #3811
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Is that the Coach tower in the left of the 2nd pic?
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Old April 29th, 2014, 02:55 PM   #3812
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Is that the Coach tower in the left of the 2nd pic?
Yes, it is.
The AP photos are taken looking west from what I (& others) call the AP (Associated Press) Headquarters building, the (in)famous 450 W. 33rd St, NY, NY. This building directly overlooks the Hudson Yards and the Manhattan West developments and is itself an overbuild above RR tracks: the west end of the NY Penn Station "bathtub" and the portals for the Amtrak Hudson River tunnels, etc.

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To the right (north) of 10 HY/the Coach tower are the remnants of the LIRR MoE building. The MoE building will be completely rebuilt (extending further north w/ some probably over the tunnel) by Tutor-Perini after the eastern end of the Amtrak tunnel box is completed. This photo also shows how far they have gotten in building the tunnel floor at the eastern end: lots of rebar for invert & wall base within the waterproofed (white) section of the excavation.

As the MoE building is rebuilt the overbuild platform/retail podium will be built above the MoE building. The vehicle ramp leading down from 10th Ave into the west Side Storage Yard will be demolished & along with the LIRR worker bridge above the tracks, etc, etc..

Here's a rendering of the retail podium that Vertical Gotham posted yesterday, from the HY FB page. The view is looking SE, from the overbuild Hudson Yards/Blvd Plaza:
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Old May 1st, 2014, 10:31 PM   #3813
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Caisson drilling work has started on the north (33 St) side of the site. The wall along the street is being removed and a drill is operating just inside. The construction is being handled by Frontier-Kemper, a Tudor-Perini subsidiary.

Concrete work is under way on the Amtrak tunnel at the 10th Ave end. Waterproofing and rebar has been installed and the concrete forms are being assembled .
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 03:43 PM   #3814
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Caisson drilling work has started on the north (33 St) side of the site. The wall along the street is being removed and a drill is operating just inside. The construction is being handled by Frontier-Kemper, a Tudor-Perini subsidiary.

Concrete work is under way on the Amtrak tunnel at the 10th Ave end. Waterproofing and rebar has been installed and the concrete forms are being assembled .
Thanks: the caisson drilling on the 33rd st side sounds like visible progress. The site should really start "going nuts" in the next few months...

The HY FB page reposted an Amtrak photo of the waterproofing being applied in the western (10th Ave) end of the tunnel box excavation. Exact date is unknown; the view is looking south but the crane on the right blocks whatever small sliver of 10 HY that might have been in frame:


From http://blog.amtrak.com/2014/04/what-...ing-on_hudson/
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 07:56 PM   #3815
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Four caisson drills now working on site:



As far as I can tell, they've pretty much finished excavation except for the middle section that had been used as a ramp:



Here workers are spraying concrete onto the walls of the trench at it's deepest point closest to 11th ave.



There's an impressive amount of supplies set up along the 11th ave viaduct:





As foretold by mmmkk, they are drilling in the northeast corner of the rail yard:



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Old May 4th, 2014, 07:46 PM   #3816
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As foretold by mmmkk, they are drilling in the northeast corner of the rail yard:



All photos from my flickr page.
Great updates J Biz! So does that mean that work on 30HY foundation has started or is about to start?
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Old May 5th, 2014, 07:14 PM   #3817
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2024: Still digging.
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Old May 5th, 2014, 09:58 PM   #3818
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Great updates J Biz! So does that mean that work on 30HY foundation has started or is about to start?
Thanks! TBH, I'm not sure if platform work in this part of the railyards is synonymous with foundation work for 30 Hudson Yards. Somebody else may be able to answer that better. I'm thinking it must be, though. This diagram comes to mind:

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Old May 6th, 2014, 03:17 AM   #3819
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just got the drawings in for this beast.

The steel makes 1 wtc look weak.

imagine 8 5" steel plates laminated together.
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Old May 6th, 2014, 01:37 PM   #3820
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Awesome. a bit comparable with the massive steel of the Ping An Center in Shenzhen?
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