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Old June 1st, 2014, 08:36 PM   #3861
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Very nice diagrams + info,

Is there more info. on the storm surge protection for the subway station and buildings? A little worrisome considering things were planned without hurricanes in mind. Those city funds are at risk.
That's a good question. The old Pennsylvania RR Hudson River tunnels under "Hudson Yards" DID flood from SuperStorm Sandy in 2012. The Hudson flowed down the tracks that 30 HY/Platform trusses will span.

So there was a path for a flooded Hudson to get into the LIRR's West Side Storage Yard and the #7 subway's opening-soon 34th station entrances/vent building (55 Hudson Blvd) is right next to the WSSY.
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Old June 1st, 2014, 08:44 PM   #3862
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In every other part of the world except NYC, this is the actual "whole" downtown skyline.

Only in NYC, this will add to just a small part of the never ending skyline.

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Old June 2nd, 2014, 04:26 AM   #3863
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Old June 2nd, 2014, 11:18 AM   #3864
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Hudson Yards and the River Beyond by TheNerdDilettante, on Flickr
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Old June 2nd, 2014, 11:27 AM   #3865
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Wow...... the scope of this project! In a few years a whole new neighborhood... indeed several whole new ones will sprout out of all this. Truly one of the great engineering marvels of modern times!
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Old June 2nd, 2014, 01:43 PM   #3866
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yep, it is very impressive. The rails only add to the complexity of this project.
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Old June 2nd, 2014, 09:01 PM   #3867
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The NortHeastCorridor underlies the site also...

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yep, it is very impressive. The rails only add to the complexity of this project.
yep, not only the rails that are currently visible but also the rails in the twin century+ old Pennsylvania RR tunnels under the Hudson. the foundtion caii

The platform/30 HY foundation caissons have to avoid those relatively shallow tunnels which run ~ under the W 32nd street grid and whose portals come out on the west (far) side of the Bergen Palisades on the horizon. The Penn RR also rebuilt the pier pilings for the 32nd street pier so that the pilings splayed out north and south of the tunnels.
That pier is gone, but the pilings that mark it's former location might be those that are visible in the Hudson in this photo. AFAIK those tunnels are relatively shallow compared to the (hopefully built in the next decade) Amtrak Gateway tunnels because electric locomotives had just been developed and they could not handle the grades/slopes the current electric trains can.

I snipped a higher res version of the Timothy Rezendes "Hudson Yards and the River Beyond" (and Jersey too!) photo and posted it below:

Snip from Timothy Rezendes "Hudson Yards and the River Beyond".

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Old June 2nd, 2014, 09:43 PM   #3868
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the 18000 really makes the site seem a lot smaller than it is.
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Old June 2nd, 2014, 09:55 PM   #3869
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the 18000 really makes the site seem a lot smaller than it is.
Yeah. That photo also shows how much construction area T-P gained by taking over temporarily (for $10M fee) the 3 southern tracks of the rail yard.

flickr's HardcoreShutterbug has provided a lot of photos from the Ohm building and recently posted a bunch of photos from the $10M improvement to the LIRR's Shea storage yard. I wonder if we'll see as many HardcoreShutterbug photos from Ohm...

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Old June 2nd, 2014, 09:59 PM   #3870
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im not sure they had any other choices except to take over that area. Even with it, they still have a lot of long picks to the make...
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 12:10 AM   #3871
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the 18000 really makes the site seem a lot smaller than it is.
That crane is huge. Can't wait to see it fully built up.
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 01:22 AM   #3872
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Still moving big equipment in...

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That crane is huge. Can't wait to see it fully built up.
thejacko5 stated that a 110 ton hydraulic crane will roll onto the culture shed site and steel will start there this week. So another crane will join all the equipment you see on the overall HY site itself in that Timoty Rezendes/flickr 6/1 photo. LOTSA equipment, but over 250 caissons to drill, AFAIK.

It looks like they are still making good progress on the rebar for the Amtrak Gateway tunnel casing and ILNY's one day earlier photo gives you different perspective for that. I think you see where the shallow Empire Connection tunnel casing (on left w/ Jersey barriers stacked on top as retaining wall) and the Gateway tunnel casing curve away from each other :

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Old June 3rd, 2014, 07:59 PM   #3873
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That crane is huge. Can't wait to see it fully built up.
18000 looks more sexy with MAX-ER. I miss it from WTC Transportation Hub construction.

Still excited that i'ts coming back to NY
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 09:44 PM   #3874
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the 18k makes anything look small! Took these in June 2010 at the Trade Center


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Old June 9th, 2014, 10:04 PM   #3875
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1- The #7 entrances between 33 St and 35 st are both elevated above street level for flood protection. it is very obvious along 33 St.

2-This weekend several VERY LARGE girders (48") and heavy (14W750) columns were staged along 33 st. This is the beginning of the platform. i assume that is what the Manitowoc 18000 (600-800 ton capacity) will be used for.
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Old June 9th, 2014, 10:33 PM   #3876
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that sounds like platform steel to me....
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Old June 10th, 2014, 02:29 PM   #3877
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Old June 10th, 2014, 02:41 PM   #3878
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Good to see Big Red back in action. I knew it'd pop up again somewhere in the city.
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Old June 10th, 2014, 08:31 PM   #3879
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1- The #7 entrances between 33 St and 35 st are both elevated above street level for flood protection. it is very obvious along 33 St.

2-This weekend several VERY LARGE girders (48") and heavy (14W750) columns were staged along 33 st. This is the beginning of the platform. i assume that is what the Manitowoc 18000 (600-800 ton capacity) will be used for.
Thank you for the info.


1 - yah. I was speculating about POSSIBLE (I don'tknow if they exit) flood paths into the NEW 34th street station via the excavation work the MTA's contractors had done on 11th Ave ~between 34th & 35th. In addition, at least part of the 33rd & 11th Ave intersection is built on a viaduct & MAYBE has some below-street grade access to the internals of the station.

Regarding the question of funding for NYC resiliency measures, newyorkyimby stated this last Friday (I don't know the original source of these numbers):
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Five billion in city funds have already been put aside for resiliency measures; the federal government will kick in another $10 billion. Still, the city is $4.5 billion short of what it estimates will be needed to make New York stronger against climate change.
http://newyorkyimby.com/2014/06/seap...e-reality.html

2 - Sounds like progress. What does 14W750 mean?
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Old June 11th, 2014, 03:38 AM   #3880
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18000 is up is set up with just the main boom, a decent amount of it too, 200ft.
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