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Old June 17th, 2014, 10:14 PM   #3901
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It's either re-clad that building, or hit it with JDAMs.
I wonder if it will lose the basketball court on the roof. The rooftop fencing is visible on some of the recent 325ccr photos...

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Old June 17th, 2014, 10:26 PM   #3902
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It starts construction next year according to their official chart. The base should be complete by the end of this year though:

I've reposted a higher-res "2014" progress prediction below:



As of last weekend (middle of June, 2014) the only erected platform steel I see in 325ccr's weekend photos is the platform that will wrap around the the NW corner of 10 HY:


325ccr www.heavytruckphotos.com

This c325ccr photo is looking east along the street grid of W31 st and shows the massive girders above the remains of the LIRR MoE building with the steel for the Fairview Market/Culture Shed plaza/terra-firma-platform on the right. Note that these girders are for the 5? 7? story retail complex, NOT 30 HY. 10HY is in the upper right.

The other 325ccr weekend photo I reposted below MIGHT show a couple of the caissons (the short rusty cylinders) for the 30 HY foundation in the bottom left. Either they are caissons, or foundations for new LIRR signal bridges/whatnot, or something else. A portion of the north-of-LIRR tracks caisson drill is at photo left. Photo is looking ~north.

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Old June 18th, 2014, 12:01 AM   #3903
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Hudson Park & Boulevard

http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-rea...ark-boulevard/


At 36th Street, a cafe/concession stand already is in the works.



Paving for the winding sidewalk has begun, and the Dickensian light posts that line it already are up. A playground will eventually replace the dirt mover



This may look like the beginnings of a streetlight, but it's actually an art installation designed by James Carpenter Design Associates. The installation will be 50 feet tall and will have 20 light sources, so both the pole and the surrounding ground will be canvases for the light show.



Just south of 35th Street, the 7 train's northern exit is taking shape. To the left of these stairs, four escalators will take passengers 40 feet down to the turnstiles, and then another set of escalators will go another 80 feet to the platform, which will stretch two blocks to the station's southern entrance at the foot of Moinian's 3 Hudson Blvd.



What we're about to tell you will change you forever. To create rolling hillsides, geofoam is cheaper than real dirt (leave it to the real estate industry to find something that actually is cheaper than dirt). Just stack a few tiers of foam like steps, cover with sand to make an even slope, and put down some soil.



The southern 7 train entrance, just south of 34th, gives a closer glimpse at what the finished product will look like. Picone Contracting, which long has worked on government projects, is building the subway and may also build the foundation for build 3 Hudson Boulevard foundation, which would be its first major private-sector project. Aron tells us the 7 train stop at Hudson Boulevard is designed to handle 30,000 people an hour.



The park from 33rd to 34th shows off the almost finished product. Aron says there are 12,000 plants and trees on this block alone.



The days of lounging around on park benches are closer than you think!
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Old June 18th, 2014, 12:16 AM   #3904
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It starts construction next year according to their official chart. The base should be complete by the end of this year though:

Shouldn't we move it to U/C then?
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Old June 18th, 2014, 12:23 AM   #3905
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the platform is u/c, not the tower.
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Old June 18th, 2014, 12:56 AM   #3906
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the platform is u/c, not the tower.
Isn't the platform just the bottom of the tower?
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Old June 18th, 2014, 01:07 AM   #3907
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Isn't the platform just the bottom of the tower?
the platform is below the bottom of the tower
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Old June 18th, 2014, 02:59 AM   #3908
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Isn't the platform just the bottom of the tower?
The building goes on top of the platform. Think of the platform as the 'soil' by which you build the house on top. You can't build a house on top of train tracks so you need to cover the rail with a platform (the soil) before the house can start construction. I hope that's not even more confusing.
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Old June 18th, 2014, 08:51 PM   #3909
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Isn't the platform just the bottom of the tower?
Yes. The tower still has a core connected to earth so I wouldn't consider the platform the soil so to speak. The platform isn't really doing anything special it's doing exactly what the first floor outer wall of any tubular structered skyscraper does. the core does the majority of the lifting and the outer wall mostly just keeps it from tipping over.

That being said this platform is connected to the other 5 buildings in Hudson Yards. It wouldn't make sense to consider this U/C without making all the others U/C too which for practical purposes would be dumb.
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Old June 18th, 2014, 09:55 PM   #3910
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Relevant to 30 HY specifically, as best can be divined

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the platform is u/c, not the tower.
And all the other posts related to 30 HY cores, walls, etc.

Whatever skycrapercity.com "state" 30 HY is in, I will repost the diagram from bloomberg again:


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and point out that the orange? large contiguous "buildable area" for 30 HY forms a rough "U" around the LIRR electrical substation/control "tower" with the open end of the U adjacent to 10th Ave. This is the area that the line from the "BUILDABLE AREAS" text block connects to. 10th Ave is at the bottom of the diagram snip below.



And MAYBE they have a drilled a couple of holes for caissons in that U-shaped buildable area, where the Manitiwoc 18000 & caisson drill were positioned last weekend in this 325ccr photo. This view is looking in almost the opposite direction from the diagrams posted above from the bloomberg article:


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The 30HY unbuildable area within the U-shape is the concrete-color& white LIRR structure behind the greenish construction fencing. The white, 2nd floor control tower will be removed from the LIRR structure before T-P overbuilds above the LIRR structure. The actual, CURRENTLY under-construction platform steel is across the tracks in the photo above, where the remains of the white-ish LIRR MoE building is north of 10 HY.

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Old June 19th, 2014, 02:08 AM   #3911
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Yes. The tower still has a core connected to earth so I wouldn't consider the platform the soil so to speak. The platform isn't really doing anything special it's doing exactly what the first floor outer wall of any tubular structered skyscraper does. the core does the majority of the lifting and the outer wall mostly just keeps it from tipping over.

That being said this platform is connected to the other 5 buildings in Hudson Yards. It wouldn't make sense to consider this U/C without making all the others U/C too which for practical purposes would be dumb.
All houses have foundations into the earth as well so I think the analogy makes sense.
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Office tenants of all stripes are watching the massive city within a city rising on the Far West Side. It's one of Manhattan's most-anticipated transformations, and that's why we're thrilled to be holding Bisnow's Future of Manhattan's Far West Side event next week. Here's the latest on that and Related and Oxford's Hudson Yards.
http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-rea...anhattan-west/

Related & Oxford's 17.4M SF Hudson Yards


Related and Oxford Properties' granddaddy-of-them-all project (30th to 34th from Tenth to the West Side Highway) is changing so fast that Stephen Winter, who joined from CBRE in November to oversee office leasing (and who also will speak at Bisnow's Future of Manhattan's Far West Side event), felt rusty when he returned from his one-week honeymoon (Hawaii) on Thursday.



The 1.7M SF 10 Hudson Yards at 30th and Tenth will house Fairway in 46k SF on the bottom, with Coach just above in 740k SF, L'Oreal above that with 402k SF, an available block of 34k SF, and then SAP in 150k SF on the top five floors. (To answer your question, it's Coach, the handbag company, not a museum for the Craig T. Nelson sitcom.) It has risen to the eighth of 52 floors (we ran a picture in yesterday's issue) and will be ready next year.



We also snapped the loads of building molds Related has made for its model. 10 Hudson Yards is on the southeast corner of the site. The 1.3M SF, 51-story 55 Hudson Yards (which like Moinian's 3 Hudson Blvd will open right onto Hudson Park) will begin at 34th and Eleventh in January and will deliver in late 2017. The building won't go spec, but Stephen has no doubt that tenants will be lined up in time, considering he's done 52 tenant presentations since January. Construction for 30 Hudson Yards, the 2.6M SF, 80-story behemoth office at 33rd and Tenth with a 1,100-foot-high observation deck will break ground sometime this year and deliver in 2018 for Time Warner's new HQs. Stephen tells us the imminent office delivery dates are a boon. They mean Related isn't talking just to the big-dog tenants; smaller tenants with shorter horizons are kicking the tires at Hudson Yards, too.



The resi buildings will begin this year, as well. The 70-story, 250-unit condo/apartment combo 15 Hudson Yards at 30th and Eleventh (the view from the penthouse looking toward the WTC is rendered above) will deliver in 2017. The 79-story 35 Hudson Yards (250 condos and 150 hotel rooms) will come online in 2018 at 33rd and Eleventh.



A million SF of retail will connect 10 and 30, and there's the public plaza, the 2.3M SF 50 Hudson Yards office building at 34th and Tenth that has yet to be unveiled, and the Culture Shed with retractable roof. (Any shed can be a culture shed if your wheelbarrow likes Shakespeare.) All of the buildings mentioned above will be under construction by this time next year and done by 2018—and then it's time to start on the western railyard, where another 2M SF of office, 4M SF of resi, 100k SF of retail, and a 120k SF K-8 school will rise by 2024. If the entire 28-acre, master-planned project seems gigantic to you, consider that half of it will be open space. And believe it or not, there's even more you don't know yet, so don't forget to sign up to hear from Phil, Stephen, and plenty of others!
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Does the "Western railyard" in the article refer to the area circle on the map as "There's a whole other railyard"? Because 6.2 million square feet would be another potential 3-4 supertalls, no? Insane!
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Does the "Western railyard" in the article refer to the area circle on the map as "There's a whole other railyard"? Because 6.2 million square feet would be another potential 3-4 supertalls, no? Insane!
Actually from what I read it will not be supertall oriented, won't be as commercial either. More like a neighborhood, with a public school for the development. Some nice towers rendered but simply a vision now... one tower known as the Western tower might be close to supertall, others probably between 600-800 ft. The Eastern railyard will be more the hub where the public will go to as well, the other side isn't going to have a massive retail or public plaza area and like I said will be more of a quieter neighborhood. High Line will wrap around it as well, though. If anyone else has read differently please feel free to correct me but from renderings and other info that's the basic thing I got.
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Yep, this is basically the all residential section for the Hudson Yards with the exception of 1 office tower. So what we know it's 7 resi 1 office and 1 school.

The West office tower is huge with 2 msf.




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Vision for Western Rail Yard (Phase 2)


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Old June 19th, 2014, 03:03 PM   #3916
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Some of those visions actually look better than some real towers under construction or planned.
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I'm sure I'm not the only one who wanted to look at these in better detail.

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Amazing that there are so many trees on site this early in the construction. Or do they predate the project? I'm guessing not because they look so young.
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What are you referring to? Looked through the last few pics and the only trees I saw were part of the Hudson Park development, which has been worked on for a while.
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What are you referring to? Looked through the last few pics and the only trees I saw were part of the Hudson Park development, which has been worked on for a while.
Yes, and the trees for Hudson Blvd Park were brought in this spring. And just like the trees around the former WTC/Twin towers they are growing in a totally man-made soil environment with drains & layers of waterproofing below the soil pits to protect all the recent & NYC-VERY-expensive infrastructure below...
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