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Old July 20th, 2014, 11:11 PM   #3961
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The roof of the Amtrak tunnel near 10th ave is 6-8' thick.
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Old July 21st, 2014, 06:27 PM   #3962
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The roof of the Amtrak tunnel near 10th ave is 6-8' thick.
So you are stating that the Amtrak tunnel arch/roof in the Gizmodo photo below (looking east at 10th Ave, probably from last week) will be 6 feet to 8 feet thick, is that correct?


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Old July 22nd, 2014, 09:09 PM   #3963
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Permit filled at 30 Hudson Yard!


Rendering of 30 Hudson Yards, as seen from the 7 station, via Related


The official groundbreaking for 30 Hudson Yards, Related’s North Tower, happened at the end of 2012, when construction began on the platform atop which part of the tower will rest. And soon, work on the actual tower may commence, with architect KPF filing permits this morning under the structure’s official name, 500 West 33rd Street. (Related could not be reached to confirm when construction will start.)
Assuming financing is secured, Time Warner will be the anchor tenant at the tower at 10th Avenue and 33rd Street, occupying space up to the 38th floor, with the choicest perches still up for grabs.
In related news, the first part of the “Hudson Boulevard” park and mid-avenue thoroughfare, between 10th and 11th Avenues, should open by the end of the year, according to the Wall Street Journal. The initial segment will stretch from West 33rd Street to West 39th, and will contain a pedestrian promenade in the center and north- and southbound streets on the edges.
Permits at 30 Hudson Yards indicate a height of just 680 feet, or 68 stories, and are likely to be amended to reflect the tower’s full 80-story, 1,255-foot height, as advertised. According to the application, the tower will contain a little over 3.9 million square feet of net floorspace, with 3.4 million square feet of commercial space that counts towards zoning limits.
The companion tower of 30 Hudson Yards, known as the South (or Coach) Tower at 10 Hudson Yards, started to go vertical last year. Its tenants – which include Coach, L’Oréal and SAP – are expected to move in by July 2015.

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Old July 22nd, 2014, 09:17 PM   #3964
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Permit filled at 30 Hudson Yard!


Rendering of 30 Hudson Yards, as seen from the 7 station, via Related
The official groundbreaking for 30 Hudson Yards, Related’s North Tower, happened at the end of 2012, when construction began on the platform atop which part of the tower will rest. And soon, work on the actual tower may commence, with architect KPF filing permits this morning under the structure’s official name, 500 West 33rd Street. (Related could not be reached to confirm when construction will start.)
Assuming financing is secured, Time Warner will be the anchor tenant at the tower at 10th Avenue and 33rd Street, occupying space up to the 38th floor, with the choicest perches still up for grabs.
In related news, the first part of the “Hudson Boulevard” park and mid-avenue thoroughfare, between 10th and 11th Avenues, should open by the end of the year, according to the Wall Street Journal. The initial segment will stretch from West 33rd Street to West 39th, and will contain a pedestrian promenade in the center and north- and southbound streets on the edges.
Permits at 30 Hudson Yards indicate a height of just 680 feet, or 68 stories, and are likely to be amended to reflect the tower’s full 80-story, 1,255-foot height, as advertised. According to the application, the tower will contain a little over 3.9 million square feet of net floorspace, with 3.4 million square feet of commercial space that counts towards zoning limits.
The companion tower of 30 Hudson Yards, known as the South (or Coach) Tower at 10 Hudson Yards, started to go vertical last year. Its tenants – which include Coach, L’Oréal and SAP – are expected to move in by July 2015.

http://newyorkyimby.com/category/30-hudson-yards#

Thanks for posting that. "Interesting", to say the least. Sparkling @ SSP posted a similar "reportage" from the real deal.
http://therealdeal.com/blog/2014/07/...medium=twitter

I assume others will critique these web posts and examine the documents filed
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 09:54 PM   #3965
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I really wouldn't understand Related doing this.... making it fat and short and taking away the centerpiece tower of the first phase of Hudson Yards? I'm shocked, and NOT in a happy way. This either will be amended or Related has lost their collective minds.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 09:57 PM   #3966
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I really wouldn't understand Related doing this.... making it fat and short and taking away the centerpiece tower of the first phase of Hudson Yards? I'm shocked, and NOT in a happy way. This either will be amended or Related has lost their collective minds.
"Permits at 30 Hudson Yards indicate a height of just 680 feet, or 68 stories, and are likely to be amended to reflect the tower’s full 80-story, 1,255-foot height, as advertised. According to the application, the tower will contain a little over 3.9 million square feet of net floorspace, with 3.4 million square feet of commercial space that counts towards zoning limits."

It says right there that it will be amended.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 10:05 PM   #3967
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The Real Deal link appeared to make it look like there was a revision to the smaller, fatter dimensions but I hope YIMBY is right.. "likely to be amended" however isn't the same as "certain" and why would they go with preliminary bogus figures that are dramatically different from how it was presented over the past few years? There was a reduction in height from 1,337 ft to 1,255 and the Culture and Equinox towers were pushed upward, but that wasn't shocking. THIS is, and don't understand why Related felt it necessary to go forward like this even if it is likely the full 80 stories and 1255 ft will be amended in later.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 10:07 PM   #3968
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The Real Deal link appeared to make it look like there was a revision to the smaller, fatter dimensions but I hope YIMBY is right.. "likely to be amended" however isn't the same as "certain" and why would they go with preliminary bogus figures that are dramatically different from how it was presented over the past few years? There was a reduction in height from 1,337 ft to 1,255 and the Culture and Equinox towers were pushed upward, but that wasn't shocking. THIS is, and don't understand why Related felt it necessary to go forward like this even if it is likely the full 80 stories and 1255 ft will be amended in later.
Real deal still states 3.9 msf of total space, which would be impossible for this site at 680ft.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 10:13 PM   #3969
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I definitely couldn't see this tower being 68 stories and only 680 ft with the floorspace necessary 3.9 mil total. Along with high floors this kind of office tower would command. Just wonder why Related put in those figures in the preliminary filing.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 10:41 PM   #3970
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I definitely couldn't see this tower being 68 stories and only 680 ft with the floorspace necessary 3.9 mil total. Along with high floors this kind of office tower would command. Just wonder why Related put in those figures in the preliminary filing.
A MrVenaCava at the YIMBY forum states:
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Taking into account the retail podium is also filed within the applications, a grand-total development of 3.92 m sq ft sounds about right (3.42 m sq ft of commercial, etc).
http://www.yimbyforums.com/t/new-yor...0-floors/201/4

Has anybody found/read the DoB filing?
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 10:44 PM   #3971
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3.9 million square feet? Even 1,227' is too short for such massive square footage! This should have been 1,600'/1,700' to the roof, minimum. What a waste of opportunity. The same applies for the Hudson Spire.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 10:54 PM   #3972
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At first i freaked out but Yimby is right! Besides I've seen filings that doesn't indicate the incorrect height for some reason and sometimes never corrected.

BTW, there is no way Related will stick an Observation Deck in a tower > 680' high in what will be the tallest section in the city.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 11:25 PM   #3973
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Thanks for posting that. "Interesting", to say the least. Sparkling @ SSP posted a similar "reportage" from the real deal.
http://therealdeal.com/blog/2014/07/...medium=twitter

I assume others will critique these web posts and examine the documents filed

That article by the Real Deal was pulled!
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 11:45 PM   #3974
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Man y'all got me jittery!

Also, since when does YIMBY have a forum?? Seriously, how many forums am I going to have to participate in?
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 12:06 AM   #3975
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Man y'all got me jittery!

Also, since when does YIMBY have a forum?? Seriously, how many forums am I going to have to participate in?
All of them, if you are a true skyscraper nerd.
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 03:40 AM   #3976
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That article by the Real Deal was pulled!
Thanks for noting that. I find a number of these "articles" to have misteaks
and inconsistencies. However, sometimes the spin in the articles is amusing.

PS: One thing we are definitely lacking here is the steady stream of photos we used to get from j-biz and hardcoreshutterbug.
Thank you ahead of time to anybody who has the time & effort to post photos of these various sites.
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 06:39 AM   #3977
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Well it must be your lucky day, solgoldberg. Eat your heart out:
55 Photos Inside the Hudson Yards Construction Site
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 09:53 AM   #3978
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That article by the Real Deal was pulled!
Hmmm, I was wondering what the heck was going on. This tower was always at about 2.6-2.7 Msf. Just checked the latest video interview up on Bloomberg to see if I was imagining things! Probably a misquote on Real Deal but I wonder what's going on with the height?
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 04:34 PM   #3979
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"the year" equals? "next year"

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Well it must be your lucky day, solgoldberg. Eat your heart out:
55 Photos Inside the Hudson Yards Construction Site
Thank you for posting that. I expected other media to post articles/photos from the same tour that Nicholas Stango/Gizmodo wrote up last week.

I also enjoyed this tidbit from the Jessica Dailey article:
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The first section of Hudson Boulevard looks nearly complete, but the Journal reported today that the first half of the park will not open until the end of next year.
versus the text from the WSJ blurb:
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The first half of a new park and boulevard running through the Hudson Yards District will open at the end of the year.
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When in doubt, go with the source that's NOT Curbed.
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