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Old November 23rd, 2014, 01:14 AM   #4241
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they are building over it.
yes, and the train station is NOT a train "station": it is a mid-day train storage yard AND maintenance facility. The maintenance facilities have been (mostly) relocated elsewhere on the LIRR system (part of the New York State MTA) while the caisson foundations are drilled and the overbuild platform is raised.

AFAIK I know the maintenance facilities will be rebuilt and the train maintenance functions will return, maybe late next year.
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Old November 23rd, 2014, 02:09 AM   #4242
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What I like about the architecture is that it is unapologetically modern ... the sharp angles and glassy appearance reminds me crystal prisms. In this regard, it surpasses London's Shard.
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Old November 23rd, 2014, 02:13 AM   #4243
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Overbuild over train station not new for NYC

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Hi everyone!

My english is not good, sorry...

I have a question for you (i don't know much about NY infrastructure, neither about this amazing project - Hudson Yards);

- It seems that there's a train station (or something like that) exactly on Hudson Yards site. It's gonna be deactivated? Or it will be preserved?

If they preserve it, the train service will keep working? How do they gonna build the foundations in that case?
As people have pointed out this train yard is very active & the platform and portions of three of the towers will be built over it.

This train yard was built in the 1980s to store LIRR (Long Island Rail Road) trains between the morning (into Manhattan from LI) and evening (out of Manhattan to LI) rush-hours for LIRR customers who use NY Pennsylvania Station. NY Penn Station was "overbuilt" in the 1960s by the current Madison Square Garden. I have taken the liberty of snipping a portion of an earlier ILNY photo and adding a purple arrow pointing to the southern portion of Madison Square Garden, which is actually a short cylinder. The original, much-beloved, NY Penn Station headhouse was torn down to build MSG on top of the below grade Penn Station train platforms and waiting areas.

Looking east (towards Long Island) along the West 31st street canyon, with the purple arrow indicating MSG w/the bowels of Penn Station below MSG. The train tracks for the LIRR maintenance facility will be rebuilt on top of the fill in the foreground of this ILNY photo. The heavy-duty maintenance facilities themselves will be rebuilt under the overbuild steel in the mid-ground. Amtrak's recently-built Gateway project tunnel box buried UNDER the fill in the photo will connect Penn Station to the NJ mainland who-knows-when.

Original photo by ILNY
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Old November 26th, 2014, 12:12 AM   #4244
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Old November 26th, 2014, 10:35 PM   #4245
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Photos originally posted by NYguy @SSP. Taken November 24, 2014









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Old November 26th, 2014, 10:56 PM   #4246
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Platform construction progress.


More "heavy duty" columns were added.



Tunnel is completely covered now. East worker entry has been closed, entry ramp removed and new columns/spans erected.
even without any buildings this platform is already something amazing. truly massive scale construction
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 02:47 PM   #4247
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The sculpture will be 150' high.

http://nypost.com/2014/12/03/hudson-...od-to-vertigo/
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 07:41 PM   #4248
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New York city is amazing!
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 09:37 PM   #4249
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for comparison, the monument at the center of Columbus Circle is around half that height.


Columbus Circle Monument by Gary Burke., on Flickr


NYC: Columbus Circle from The Shops at Columbus Circle by wallyg, on Flickr
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 10:48 PM   #4250
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Thanks for the reference point. This thing will be pretty big!
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Old December 4th, 2014, 12:20 AM   #4251
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About the same height to high point of the WTC Oculus.
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Old December 4th, 2014, 03:38 AM   #4252
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What I like about the architecture is that it is unapologetically modern ... the sharp angles and glassy appearance reminds me crystal prisms. In this regard, it surpasses London's Shard.
Much of modern architecture is unapologetically modern. Some of it should apologize.
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Old December 4th, 2014, 03:52 AM   #4253
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Much of modern architecture is unapologetically modern. Some of it should apologize.
Christopher Columbus -> Giovanni de Verrazzono -> Henry Hudson. What next?
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Old December 4th, 2014, 04:38 AM   #4254
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Well there's no shortage of colonial imperialist bastards, so where should we start?
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Old December 7th, 2014, 01:00 AM   #4255
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West Side Yard, NYC (2) by Hardcore Shutterbug, on Flickr


West Side Yard, NYC (5) by Hardcore Shutterbug, on Flickr


West Side Yard, NYC (3) by Hardcore Shutterbug, on Flickr


West Side Yard, NYC (6) by Hardcore Shutterbug, on Flickr


West Side Yard, NYC (9) by Hardcore Shutterbug, on Flickr
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View of Manhattan looking North from OneWTC
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Old December 7th, 2014, 07:27 PM   #4257
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Wow, awesome photos by Hardcore Shutterbug! Thanks for posting them, desertpunk. You can see that the platform has been built all the way up to the "throat," where we should see some really interesting maneuvers soon.
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Old December 8th, 2014, 02:52 AM   #4258
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Wow, awesome photos by Hardcore Shutterbug! Thanks for posting them, desertpunk. You can see that the platform has been built all the way up to the "throat," where we should see some really interesting maneuvers soon.

Hardcoreshutterbug has a few photos looking "down" (east) the throat.

This was is looking ~SE and shows the retail podium platform & the j-biz memorial building w/adjacent smokestack right of center


West Side Yard, NYC (2) by Hardcore Shutterbug, on Flickr

This BW one is looking down (~east) the northernmost tracks, which have that one beam across them

West Side Yard, NYC (7) by Hardcore Shutterbug, on Flickr

And this one is looking down (~est) the two tracks south of the northernmost track:

West Side Yard, NYC (18) by Hardcore Shutterbug, on Flickr

And this snip from NYC dept of records gelatin-silver print is a an aerial of the location ~60 years. The 11th Ave viaduct runs across the bottom with 10th Ave (not a viaduct yet) above it. The Pennsylvania RR (background, in the NY Penn Station "bathtub") & the NY Central RR (foreground, on grade) were not bankrupt yet, the Penn Station headhouse had not been torn down, Dyer Ave had not been created yet (to connect to a Lincoln Tunnel tube that might not have been built yet), the AP HQ bldg was ~15 years in the future, but the j-biz memorial adjacent smokestack still had a low building attached!

This is a zoomed-in snip from the complete print that McSky had posted in another Hudson Yard thread.

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Old December 8th, 2014, 04:39 AM   #4259
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That low building on the McCourt site was only torn down a handful of years ago, actually.
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Old December 8th, 2014, 06:47 AM   #4260
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Much of modern architecture is unapologetically modern. Some of it should apologize.
We tried that in the 80s and 90s, didn't turn out exactly how we expected it
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