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Old July 21st, 2011, 11:54 PM   #421
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Yes thank you very much.

Shouldn't there be a individual thread, for the first building going up?
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 12:09 AM   #422
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wow this is tremendous. if the south tower really does turn out to be ~1000ft, then according to how it looks vs. the north tower in the render, the north tower might possibly be ~350m? i guess its too hard to tell at this point.
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The only thing I read that caught my eye, was the fact they said there could be a design change lol.
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 12:30 AM   #424
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The only thing I read that caught my eye, was the fact they said there could be a design change lol.
True.. Can't say that current design is a work of art..
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 12:48 AM   #425
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True.. Can't say that current design is a work of art..
True, the buildings look weird
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 02:48 AM   #426
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True.. Can't say that current design is a work of art..
Euphemism.
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Old July 26th, 2011, 02:09 PM   #427
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Scaling the Towers of Hudson Yards

By Matt Chaban 7/21 1:38pm



It’s funny how a story comes about sometimes.

Following the news that Coach is poised to sign a lease at Hudson Yard, the first of possibly a dozen, a reader wrote in with a simple question: How tall is the bag-maker’s new redoubt? We turned to Google but there was no clear answer, so we asked around to our sources who know the site. Answer: about 1,000 feet. Also, a gentle reminder that, because this is one of the few pieces being built on terra firma, as soon as said lease and some financing is in place, construction can commence and be done by 2015.

What is interesting about this news is it sheds a little more light on the gigantic project and just how big it really is. At 1,000 feet, the KPF-designed south tower would be in the top five tallest buildings in the city, just barely ahead of 7 World Trade and right around the Chrysler Building—if we’re counting antennas, it’s technically surpassed by the Times Building, the old AIG tower and One Bryant Park, but everyone knows you shouldn’t count the antennas, much as Douglas Durst might like to.

Furthermore, a rendering The Observer unearthed back in December reveals this is potentially the shortest of the three commercial towers Related has planned. The rendering above, taken from that wild video, shows only two towers, though this is still a good deal shorter. The eastern flank of Hudson Yards could well surpass the 1,000-foot mark, possibly challenging Steve Roth and Tony Malkin‘s prides of place on the skyline. Our source preferred not to disclose details of the other towers, saying there is “flexibility” in the ultimate design.

Viewed in repose alongside the other buildings in the project in this rendering, it becomes clear that the residential buildings are pretty big, too. This really is like taking a huge chunk of midtown and and the Upper East Side, jamming it together, and plopping it down on two blocks of Hudson River real estate. Then again, 26 million square feet of development have to be wedged in somewhere.

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Old July 26th, 2011, 02:13 PM   #428
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If the south tower is around 300m then the north one should be around 400m.

More importantly, many adjecent sites around this project (which the developer, Related, does not own) have air rights that can accommodate towers in the range of 450m. The West side will be the epicenter of the skyline. Even views of 15 Penn Plaza eventually will be blocked.

This area, which until recently was a forlorn spot that housed auto repair shops, will be a magnificent neighborhood with at least 10 towers that exceed 300m.

It's also agreed in NY that the huge convention center (i.e., the low-rise black building on the left) will be razed and that site, which is bigger than the Hudson Yards, will be redeveloped. That could yield even more 300m+ towers.

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Old July 26th, 2011, 03:24 PM   #429
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I just hope the tallest of these buildings will be at least 415m. That would undo the shame the new WTC brought to NY, the fact that the new second tallest tower in NY is shorter than the old one
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Old July 26th, 2011, 03:26 PM   #430
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Where's the shame in that?
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Well, skyscrapers should rise higher than their ancestors, not drop lower
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I just hope the tallest of these buildings will be at least 415m. That would undo the shame the new WTC brought to NY, the fact that the new second tallest tower in NY is shorter than the old one
NY has more 300m+ towers planned or under construction than any city in the developed world and possibly more than in any developing city, including places like Dubai and Shanghai.
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That's good, cause I always thought about NY as the city of skyscrapers. After all, it is in NY where history was made countless times with skyscrapers. Since the start of the 20th century it was always NY which held the title of world's tallest building 'til 1974 and I, just as Donald Trump, would like to see that title return to NY
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Old July 26th, 2011, 03:37 PM   #434
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NY has a lot of supertalls, but it will never be home to the world's tallest. No one in NY wants that.

Anyway, my favorite part of NYC is the mix of old and new that the new skyscraper centers like Dubai and Shanghai lack. (The Bund is one small street.)

This is the heart of NY to me.

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Well, I never was a fan of historical buildings other than the Pyramids, but I can imagine that this street must seem beautiful to somebody who likes this style.
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Well, I never was a fan of historical buildings other than the Pyramids, but I can imagine that this street must seem beautiful to somebody who likes this style.

..i can understand you, I am also a fan of skyscrapers and supertalls, but the ''lack'' of the tallest tower will be compensated with style..I don't know any city, which has so much style, especially the perfect mix of old and modern architecture..for me, its still 'the mother of skyscrapers' (altough chicago uses to be the hometown of the first skyscraper..but iam not sure about that)
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I personally would love for this to exist:



Although I'd make it twice the size it was planned, that would make the building 1092m tall to the roof. It would both be a beautiful building and world's tallest one. Though this could happen only in like the 2030s or 2040s maybe even 2050s
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Old July 26th, 2011, 04:56 PM   #438
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What is that and where does it come from? Looks like another 1WTC on steroids, not really exciting at all.
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Old July 26th, 2011, 05:13 PM   #439
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hmm not bad..but i think it would destroy the skyline..I think height of n.y. buildings are growing slow.. and a step from 500 to 1000 would be a bit raping

by the way are there any clear renders for this hudson yards proposal? I don't like it at this stage...
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Thats a Trump proposal from the 90s to house the NYSE Stock Exchange.

And here's a link to some better renders courtesy of RW, he originally posted the link at SSP.

http://www.visualhouse.co.uk/portfol...strations/tall

And RW actually, I've heard those rumors of moving the Javits Center for years I feel like, but where in the world would they move it to? I can't think of a plot large enough. Obviously, I do agree NY needs a better convention space, Javits is way too small, but do you know where they're looking to move it?
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