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Old October 19th, 2015, 11:45 PM   #4761
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When is this tower supposed to topp off?
The top floor needs to be finished, then I assume they will erect the steel for this tower's sloped top. It should happen sometime later this month, or early next month.

edit: lol wrong thread. Was thinking about 10 HY.

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Old October 20th, 2015, 02:46 AM   #4762
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oky so the Empire State Building and the old WTC towers had a core made out of collums and light weight walls but how do you protect the staircase in this new bulding from a plane or bomb ??
Yeah this building doesn't appear to be very "terrorism ready". Despite the massive steel at the base so far.
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Old October 20th, 2015, 03:35 AM   #4763
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Finally. I asked this before and never got a proper answer. I assume several of the towers in the Hudson Yards will have no core. So that platform must be insanely solid to hold all these towers.
People tend to assume that this building will rest on the platform just like a vase stands over a table, the truth is there is no platform supporting this building. Bellow I am adding a diagram bellow that explains how this tower is supported. As I said, the building won't be supported by any platform, it will be anchored to the ground in a similar way as any building. The difference is that, since there is a web of tracks under it, they just can't make the columns go vertical all the way to the ground. They had to place the supporting piles in the places available by the tracks, then they have to make a complex structure with leaning columns in the lower levels of the tower. Above the podium, the tower will have a more regular structure, where the office floors will go, similar to any other building. That regular structure will continue to the top. In the levels of the podium, the weight supported by that regular structure will be transferred, with the leaning columns, to the pilling placed between the tracks.

The core is mainly to withstand horizontal forces (such as wind or earthquakes) It is posible that above the podium, this tower has some sort of core with bracing between the columns. Now you see that there is a lot of bracing in the facade, but in the upper floors they can't put bracing there because it would obstruct the windows, so it is possible that above the podium that bracing is transfered to the center of the tower, along the elevator shafts, where it would not obstruct anything, thus forming some sort of core (I have no details of that so it is a supposition of mine, but they do have to have a structure to resist horizontal forces in the main body of the tower, so I guess they will do that or something similar)

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oky so the Empire State Building and the old WTC towers had a core made out of collums and light weight walls but how do you protect the staircase in this new bulding from a plane or bomb ??
They could still encase the fire escape stairs and some elevators with concrete walls attached to the steel structure, that concrete walls could act as bracing on the main body of the tower. Again, I don't know if they are doing that, but they could.


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Old October 20th, 2015, 06:22 PM   #4764
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oky so the Empire State Building and the old WTC towers had a core made out of collums and light weight walls but how do you protect the staircase in this new bulding from a plane or bomb ??
It's not only the twin towers or the ESB, there are many buildings in NYC which are made of structural steel framing relying on a "steel core" composed of braced frames. I made a post listing some of them previously.

There is no building code requirements to design a building to withstand the impact of a plane. Considering the low probability of occurrence, that would be insanely detrimental from the economic standpoint and the money is better spent ensuring better security in airports and planes.

Regarding bomb threats, there are blast protection design requirements and analysis for the structural members and connections. The members in the core and brace frames are "oversized" in the sense that it would take a lot of heat and time before the capacity would be significantly reduced + they are also "protected" with fireproofing or intumescent painting and there will also likely be a sprinkler system.

Lastly there are several cores with braced frames for this particular building (as opposed as just one main core in concrete buildings) to provide redundancy - so if one core/stairwell is disabled, another one would be available.
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Old October 20th, 2015, 10:24 PM   #4765
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It doesn't have a core.
of course it does...

its a steel core and its adjacent to 33rd st.
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Old October 20th, 2015, 10:25 PM   #4766
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The top floor needs to be finished, then I assume they will erect the steel for this tower's sloped top. It should happen sometime later this month, or early next month.

edit: lol wrong thread. Was thinking about 10 HY.
countdown clock reads 1076 days from today...that is building completed.
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Old October 20th, 2015, 10:32 PM   #4767
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Here's a couple of shots I got while I was in town:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/312175...746481/sizes/l


https://www.flickr.com/photos/312175...7657538835754/
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Old October 21st, 2015, 09:31 PM   #4768
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financing for the mall is complete. Creditors include Bank of China, Deutsche Bank, Credit Agricole, and I&C Bank of China.

http://commercialobserver.com/2015/1...truction-loan/



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Old October 26th, 2015, 11:54 AM   #4769
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Psychedelic Hudson Yards:


Hudson Yards Construction At 34th Street and Hudson Avenue, 12th Avenue - Manhattan by Nolan H. Rhodes, on Flickr
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Old October 26th, 2015, 03:57 PM   #4770
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So am I looking at the wrong building, or is this almost T/O?
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Old October 26th, 2015, 04:12 PM   #4771
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Looking at the wrong building. 10 Hudson Yards is almost topped out.
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Old October 27th, 2015, 06:20 PM   #4772
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KKR close to 400K sf buy at 30 Hudson Yards
http://therealdeal.com/blog/2015/10/...-hudson-yards/

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Private equity firm Kohlberg Kravis Roberts is about to pull the trigger on a long-rumored Hudson Yards investment. KKR is looking to buy 400,000 square feet of space at 30 Hudson Yards, which is now under construction at West 33rd Street and 10th Avenue, the New York Post reported. The company, which would relocate from its 160,000-square-foot space at Sheldon Solow’s 9 West 57th Street, has been mulling the move since at least May of this year. A number of major tenants have already signed on to occupy the 90-story, 2.6 million-square-foot tower, which is set to open in 2019. Time Warner has committed to buy over half the building’s space in the form of a 1.6 million square office condo. The Related Cos., which is developing the Hudson Yards complex along with Oxford Properties Group, announced last week it would take 270,000 square feet across six of the building’s upper floors. Oxford, for its part, will take 45,000 square feet.
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Old October 28th, 2015, 12:40 AM   #4773
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So, if Time Warner's got 1.6 million Sq ft, related and Oxford, more tham 300.000 and now this company Kohlberg Kravis is getting another 400 K, there would be less than 300.000 sq feet left available on the tower, almost full... And it is barely above ground...
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Old October 28th, 2015, 04:36 AM   #4774
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LadiAmanita, what awesome pic showing george washigton bridge
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Old October 28th, 2015, 11:38 AM   #4775
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Glad you like it, I took it from the One World observation deck, using a 50x zoom lens.
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Old October 29th, 2015, 06:57 PM   #4776
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Supertall Hudson Yards Tower Gets New Renderings & Tenant
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Global investment firm KKR & Co. has signed on for 343,000 square feet of office space at 30 Hudson Yards, and to celebrate, developers Related Companies and Oxford Properties Group have unleashed a handful of new renderings of the nearly 1,300-foot-tall tower. The firm will occupy the 90-story tower's top ten floors—below the observation deck, presumably—and won't have to rub shoulders in the elevator with employees of the building's other tenant, Time Warner Inc.; the office space comes with its own elevator bank and a "sky lobby," as per a press release from the developers. The glass tower—the tallest coming to Hudson Yards—is designed by Bill Pedersen of Kohn Pedersen Fox and has obtained LEED Gold status.
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Old October 29th, 2015, 07:19 PM   #4777
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35 HY looks huge in that render.
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Old October 29th, 2015, 10:03 PM   #4778
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haha with that last render i thought for a moment i was in the Forum 66 thread
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Old October 30th, 2015, 02:38 AM   #4779
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wow, space in this tower is being sold quickly.

http://www.hudsonyardsnewyork.com/of...0-hudson-yards

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Old October 30th, 2015, 02:31 PM   #4780
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Sort of but not quite an obelisk.
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