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Old September 21st, 2011, 03:18 PM   #541
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thats kind of what i was thinking. they might go well with each other if this design is kept
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Old September 21st, 2011, 03:20 PM   #542
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Is this a new design or just some concept? I am confused.
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Old September 21st, 2011, 04:04 PM   #543
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From what I know a new design which will most probably change 'til construction starts
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Old September 21st, 2011, 04:50 PM   #544
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Is this a new design or just some concept? I am confused.
Apparently, the design for the first two office towers that's been shown is not final, and there are around six contenders, all by KPF. This is the second of the six.
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Old September 21st, 2011, 04:55 PM   #545
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I'm betting on more boxes. You get max GLA with a box.
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Old September 21st, 2011, 06:47 PM   #546
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That's true. That's why it's so awesome to build boxes
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Old September 21st, 2011, 08:42 PM   #547
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the successor from battery park city, a new city in the city
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Battery Park City won't have anything on this.
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Apparently, the design for the first two office towers that's been shown is not final, and there are around six contenders, all by KPF. This is the second of the six.
Got more (illustrated) info?
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Old September 21st, 2011, 10:44 PM   #550
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Apparently, only the buildings' footprints are finalized.

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Old September 28th, 2011, 04:03 AM   #551
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Brookfield, together with Related and Silverstein, clearly are courting Time Warner.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...LEFTTopStories

BY LAUREN A. E. SCHUKER
Time Warner Inc. is eyeing several new possibilities for its headquarters in Manhattan, from moving to the new World Trade Center to building a new tower on the West Side of Manhattan, as it undertakes a broader evaluation of its real estate situation in New York, according to people close to the situation.

The expiration of several high-profile leases later this decade prompted the media company, which owns Time Inc., HBO, CNN and Warner Bros., to conduct the analysis of the roughly 4 million square feet it occupies in Manhattan.

Some of those leases—including ones for more than 2 million ...
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Old October 4th, 2011, 09:15 PM   #552
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Price tag for the foreclosed industrial sites? Just under $30 million—far below what was paid for them during the bubble by a group that included the notorious Baruch Singer.

By Amanda Fung
October 3, 2011 1:03 p.m.



Interest in developing at the Hudson Yards site has picked up recently, thanks to the recent extension of the High Line, the anticipated expansion of the 7 subway line, and Related Cos.' plan to construct a mixed-use development over the rail yards west of Penn Station.

Ripe-for-development industrial properties on four lots in the Hudson Yards section of Manhattan's West Side are up for grabs for $29.95 million. Brokerage Massey Knakal Realty Services was recently retained to market the properties on the north side of West 37th Street and the south side of West 38th Street between 10th and 11th avenues. The properties were recently foreclosed on by the owner's lender, Fortress Credit Corp., which hired Massey Knakal to sell the properties, according to public records.

The previous owner was a partnership that included Baruch Singer, a New York City landlord notorious for racking up numerous housing code violations and tussling with tenants. The partnership defaulted on a $55 million loan for the properties in 2008, although public records show the current value of the loan is roughly $45 million.

“The properties are attracting tremendous interest,” said Robert Knakal, chairman of Massey Knakal, declining to confirm or comment on the seller of the properties. “We already have several offers. This is an area that has significant development opportunities over the next decade.”

Mr. Singer could not be reached for comment. Mitchell Haddad of the law firm Sills Cummins & Gross, representing Fortress Credit, did not return a call for comment.

The buildings for sale are occupied by tenants, but their leases can be terminated, according to the brokerage. The 173,000-buildable-square-foot site is zoned for dense commercial and limited residential use. The new owner of the site can buy additional rights from the city or other nearby property owners to build up to 373,000 total square feet. At the height of the market in 2007, Mr. Singer and partners bought the buildings for about $62 million and reportedly had plans to build two office towers on the site.

Interest in developing at the Hudson Yards site has picked up recently, thanks to the recent extension of the popular, elevated High Line park, the anticipated expansion of the 7 subway line, and Related Cos.' plan to construct a sprawling mixed-use development over the rail yards west of Penn Station. Nine months ago, Mr. Knakal noted, his firm sold a smaller development site east of the one it is currently marketing located at West 37th Street between Ninth and 10th avenues, for about $18 million to Jackson Development. Jackson plans to build a residential development on that site.

“Development in Hudson Yards will happen a lot quicker than people expect,” predicted Ryan Nelson, a senior vice president at Sherwood Equities, who declined to comment on the latest site that is for sale.

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In their efforts not to fall behind one another in the development of massive West Side sites, Related Companies and Brookfield Office Properties each plan to begin construction at its property early next year, the Wall Street Journal reported.

At Hudson Yards, at the LIRR storage area between 10th and 12th avenues and 30th and 33rd streets, Related is close to an agreement with Coach for 600,000 square feet in the first building set to rise at the sites southeast corner. But financing for the building may not be complete until the developer can ink another tenant. The Journal said CB Richard Ellis has been chose to market the space. Construction on the rest of the site, which has become a priority for the city as Bloomberg has directed a subway line extension to feed the neighborhood, couldn't begin until a $700 million deck is built above the rail yards.

Meanwhile, Brookfield has said several times that next year it will start constructing the $300 million deck above the rail tracks, along Ninth Avenue between 31st and 33rd Streets, needed before any structures rise. The firm has named the site Manhattan West. Through its other holdings, the company has relationships with many of the city's most prominent office tenants and expects to fill the buildings with those clients.

Though both firms acknowledged competition for tenants would be fierce, Related said its advantage would be the larger mixed-use projects complimenting the office buildings on its site. Brookfield, on the other hand, boasted that it owns its development site, which is also closer to existing transit.

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Old October 10th, 2011, 10:52 PM   #554
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This project is a skyline in its own. I can't wait to see the first towers rise here.
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Old October 10th, 2011, 11:20 PM   #555
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Too bad there will likely be no supertalls in this project.
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Old October 10th, 2011, 11:43 PM   #556
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That isn't even the right render. That's the design Brookfield proposed for the Hudson Yard. Not Manhattan West or Related design is in it.
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Too bad there will likely be no supertalls in this project.
What are you talking about? The shortest of the office towers will be 953 feet.
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Old October 10th, 2011, 11:47 PM   #558
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So, I don't quite get it. Is One Manhattan West a part of this development?
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Old October 10th, 2011, 11:49 PM   #559
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No. As far as I can tell they're not related.
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Old October 11th, 2011, 12:04 AM   #560
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What are you talking about? The shortest of the office towers will be 953 feet.
Thats what we have heard so far. Considering the height reduction of Manhattan West, however, Im having doubts for this.
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