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Old October 11th, 2011, 12:37 AM   #561
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There's no height reduction for MW.

Believe in NYC. It's the only city in the US that has demand for millions of sf of office space and for 300m+ residential towers! It's the undisputed king!!
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Old October 11th, 2011, 12:51 AM   #562
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I do believe in NYC. However, the fact that developers in NYC build for profit rather than symbolism through height or design always makes me cynical about developments there.
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Old October 11th, 2011, 12:55 AM   #563
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I do believe in NYC. However, the fact that developers in NYC build for profit rather than symbolism through height or design always makes me cynical about developments there.
That's not true. Look at Beekman, 56 Leonard, BofA, NYT, etc.
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Old October 11th, 2011, 01:25 AM   #564
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So, I don't quite get it. Is One Manhattan West a part of this development?
Totally different developments. This is being built by Related and is on 11th Ave between 33th and 32nd, MW is Brookfield and is on 9th Ave between 33th and 31st.

The only connections are that they are close, geographically speaking, and that they both have very similar potential completion dates so they're competing for tenants with each other.

Hope that clears up any questions, but these are two completely different projects, but
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Old October 11th, 2011, 02:24 AM   #565
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Totally different developments. This is being built by Related and is on 11th Ave between 33th and 32nd, MW is Brookfield and is on 9th Ave between 33th and 31st.

The only connections are that they are close, geographically speaking, and that they both have very similar potential completion dates so they're competing for tenants with each other.

Hope that clears up any questions, but these are two completely different projects, but
Seeing as how close the developments are, could we possibly have a new "worlds tallest block" when all are completed, or would the 1/2 blocks in between prevent this.
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Old October 11th, 2011, 02:46 AM   #566
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That's not true. Look at Beekman, 56 Leonard, BofA, NYT, etc.
I was refering to the really ambitious projects. Beekman and BofA were ambitious, but a 1200 footer is in a whole other category in terms of ambition.
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Old October 11th, 2011, 02:50 AM   #567
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So, which design is the one they will stick to? If we don't know yet, than it makes no sense to talk about a design. Same for 440 Park Avenue.
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Old October 11th, 2011, 03:15 AM   #568
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So, which design is the one they will stick to? If we don't know yet, than it makes no sense to talk about a design. Same for 440 Park Avenue.
nothing is final yet, apparently excluding the footprints
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Old October 11th, 2011, 03:23 AM   #569
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Ok. I hope this will be sort of a futuristic BPC like project. I walked around BPC 1,5 hrs last year and was amazed by the details. It looks sterile around the Stuyvesant school area, and so in some other parts, like everything behind the south cove. But i like the attention to detail, and hope it will be made here as well. And they will make it vibrant and lively at street level, with a feel you have, while walking through Midtown. With mixed retail, bars, clubs, services, w/e. This, and the possible redevelopment of the sire where the Javits centre still is, are both a great oppurtunity this city has.
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Old October 11th, 2011, 03:44 AM   #570
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The final heights and designs of the towers at Hudson Yards, not to mention their uses, will be determined by the leases that get signed as well as market conditions. Spending $700mln on a deck means that the ROI for this development will require very large, very tall buildings. If market conditions are favorable, supertalls are inevitable. No developer in NY who has a choice would leave unused air rights or allowable space on the table. Land is too expensive and competition is too fierce.
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Old October 25th, 2011, 04:36 PM   #571
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Old October 26th, 2011, 09:04 AM   #572
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http://www.wsj.com/article/SB1000142...ondStoriesents

Hudson Yards Lures Its First Tenant
By ELIOT BROWN And LAURA KUSISTO


Coach appears likely to be the first tenant at Hudson Yards, where construction could start early next year. Coach's offices now are in the building at left behind the site.

For years, city officials and real-estate developers have aspired to transform Manhattan's rugged far West Side into a glimmering office district, hoping to attract A-list tenants to what they call a new Rockefeller Center.

Now, they appear to have their first taker.

Luxury accessories company Coach Inc. plans to move its headquarters into a new tower the Related Cos. aims to build at its planned Hudson Yards development, according to multiple people familiar with the matter.

Coach signed a nonbinding agreement earlier this month that calls for the firm to occupy a third, or about 600,000 square feet, of the office building that is to rise at 10th Avenue and 30th Street, the people said.

Development of the Hudson Yards area—a wind-swept district of warehouses, rail yards and parking lots south of the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center—has been a priority of Mayor Michael Bloomberg almost since he took office. Mr. Bloomberg initially tried to build a football stadium in the neighborhood, a vision that was rejected by legislators in Albany.

The neighborhood was rezoned in 2005 to allow office towers, and the city has said it intends to spend $3 billion on infrastructure in the area, including new parks and the extension of the No. 7 subway line to 33rd Street and 11th Avenue, which is under construction.

But development has taken far longer to kick off than once envisioned. Related secured the rights to develop more than six blocks of Metropolitan Transportation Authority rail yards just as the economy turned in 2008. While companies such as Morgan Stanley and Condé Nast initially expressed interest in moving to the area, employers pulled back when the economy soured. Prospects for building dimmed.

Should the deal with Coach be finalized, it is unclear whether it would provide enough momentum for Related to break ground on the new tower. Developers generally have had a difficult time securing loans from banks for new office construction, although Related has told government officials it anticipates breaking ground early next year.

A prolific development firm led by Miami Dolphins owner Stephen Ross, Related has been aggressively pitching the project, trying to sign up firms in its inaugural towers with the allure of being pioneers in a yet-to-emerge neighborhood.

For later phases, Related has talked with larger employers including Time Warner Inc. and Bloomberg L.P., people familiar with the matter said.

Coach's offices are already in the neighborhood: The firm is headquartered in an unremarkable building on West 34th Street near 10th Avenue. Under the terms of the deal with Related, Coach would own its space in the 1.8 million square foot tower, people familiar with the matter said.

Related has tapped brokerage CBRE Group Inc. to market the first tower to tenants. The brokerage also represents Coach.

Should Related start construction early next year, the first tower—which is to be built on firm ground, not over the rail yards—could be completed by 2015. In plans released last year, the company envisioned up to five towers on the eastern half of the site, as well as a large retail center. Future towers would require a big up-front investment: an approximately $700 million deck over the rail yards.

In an interview on CNBC last week, Mr. Ross plugged the project, saying numerous companies have considered the site. "We're talking now to probably about 22 million square feet of tenants that have a real interest in Hudson Yards," he said.

Construction would come as welcome news for the MTA. Building would trigger lease payments that Related has pledged to the agency, part of a deal valued by the MTA at $1 billion.

Write to Eliot Brown at [email protected] and Laura Kusisto at [email protected]
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Interactive Look at Plan to Build New Midtown on West Side


Hudson Yards concept rendering.

By Mathew Katz and Billy Figueroa

HELL'S KITCHEN — An economic crisis that halted construction throughout much of the city was bad news for the Hudson Yards project, a sprawling set of new skyscrapers and development envisioned for the far west side of Hell's Kitchen. But where construction once stalled, the city-backed project to develop the last bits of prime land in Manhattan has begun to move forward again.

At least one developer is gearing up to start construction in early 2012, and several others are actively courting anchor tenants for their massive new projects. DNAinfo has put together a map of the ever-evolving Hudson Yards project, which is much more than a development over a rail yard, to provide an interactive glimpse at what the area might look like within a decade.

Click the link to the article to view the interactive map: http://www.dnainfo.com/20111025/chel...n-on-west-side


A New Neighborhood

The Bloomberg administration sees the far west side of Manhattan as the "one last frontier" available on the island. The largely industrial area between West 30th Street and West 42nd Street, from Eighth Avenue to the Hudson River, is primed to become a sort of new Midtown with gleaming office towers, high-priced condos, and chic hotels.

Much smaller is Related Companies' Hudson Yards development, a proposed plaza of 16 skyscrapers built on top of what's currently the West Side Yard. Related, along with the Oxford Properties Group, has leased the rail yard from the MTA for a period of 99 years. The plan is to build a deck over part of the yard, and towers on and around that. While numbers and statistics about the project have long been in flux since major work on it got underway in 2005, the city's Hudson Yards website anticipates the area at its full capacity could provide up to 26 million square feet of new office space, 20,000 units of new housing and 2 million square feet of retail space.

The area's gotten major city and state support. By the end of 2013, the MTA expects to finish a project extending the 7 Train to West 34th Street and Eleventh Avenue. The area also had to undergo extensive rezoning, with one section approved by the City Council in 2005, and the other in 2009, to transform the area from an industrial yard to a vibrant mixed-use district.

The city's help hasn't entirely pushed the project forward, but it has provided huge financial incentives to developers and property owners that help spur construction.

Sweetening the Deal

The city has set up two agencies to both attract and finance development. The Hudson Yards Infrastructure Corporation, set up in 2007, is the primary lender for the project's infrastructure, issuing bonds that will help pay for the massive undertaking of building what's essentially a second Midtown.

The Hudson Yards Development Corporation was established to administer the mind-bogglingly complex set of financial incentives open to developers, the largest of which is a massive property tax discount. Applying to the entire Hudson Yards area, property owners can get 15 to 40 percent off their property taxes for 15 years, depending on where and when they build. "The idea is to incentivize developers to build quickly," said Peter Wertheim, the development corporation's Vice President for Financial Development. "Once the first 5 million square feet is built, the discount is ratcheded down to 25 percent, and so on — early actors get the best deals."

Weirtheim said a significant amount of developers have taken advantage of some of the incentives, including one that allows builders to exceed the existing zoning's floor-to-area ratio — basically, how many floors a building can have based on its footprint — by contributing into a district improvement fund that will help build much-needed new infrastructure for the area. The end result: many of the planned new buildings will significantly alter the Manhattan skyline, topping out at 50 or 60 floors.

Will They Build It? Who Will Come?

Developers are largely optimistic that major work on the project will get underway soon, though only one has confirmed that construction is imminent. In January, Brookfield Properties is set to begin constructing Manhattan West, a three-building, six-acre complex bordered by West 31st and 33rd Streets and Ninth and Tenth Avenues. "Occupancy for the first of the new office towers is planned for 2015," wrote Melissa Coley, a spokesperson for Brookfield, in a statement. "We are currently in discussion with a broad range of potential tenants, from media-tech firms to financial services companies."

That lot, at Ninth Avenue and 33rd Street, is currently both a parking lot and a hub for discount carrier Megabus. Megabus has been asked to leave the area by January 2012. Along with Related and Brookfield, Sherwood Equities owns several other large lots in the area, and plans to eventually build them up into gigantic developments, including a 2.4 million square foot building on the west side of Tenth Avenue, between West 34th and West 35th Streets. The building would also stretch west to Hudson Boulevard, a new tree-lined park and street running from West 42nd Street to West 30th Street, between Tenth and Eleventh Avenues.

Several developers could not give specifics on their projects, but a number of them said they are waiting for Related to begin work on their large-scale development before beginning major work on their own projects. The West Side Yard is still surrounded by placards announcing Related's Hudson Yards project, and the developer noted that the already-delayed project has picked up some steam. Joanna Rose, a spokesperson for the company, said that the resurgence of the construction economy, along with tax incentives, have made the marketplace respond to what Related is offering. "We are currently in talks with several large-scale users and have seen great interest in the commercial space at the yards," she said.

Rose was optimistic that construction could begin in mid-2012, though it's unclear how much of the project would be underway by that point, if it begins at all.

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Old November 1st, 2011, 08:09 PM   #574
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The rendering was just posted on www.curbed.com, and it's amazing!!! I'm on a train. Can someone post it?
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Old November 1st, 2011, 08:43 PM   #575
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I meant the realdeal.com. This tower is amazing! NY is the king!
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Old November 1st, 2011, 08:47 PM   #576
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Yeah wasted 5 minutes on curbed lol.









Don't know where to get them bigger.

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Looks like they wasted no time thanking Coach for their purchase.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 09:07 PM   #578
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NY is the king! Long live the king!!
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Old November 1st, 2011, 09:16 PM   #579
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Very good looking buildings. They aren't exactly my style but they are OK
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