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Old May 17th, 2017, 05:23 PM   #5821
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I was down there about a month ago. It's nicer than I could have imaged.
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Old May 17th, 2017, 09:14 PM   #5822
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I kind of like the interior design. It is modest! Sweet!
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Old May 19th, 2017, 05:40 AM   #5823
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Old May 21st, 2017, 07:43 AM   #5824
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Old May 21st, 2017, 09:47 AM   #5825
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Old May 21st, 2017, 12:34 PM   #5826
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Old May 21st, 2017, 12:51 PM   #5827
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I hate to be negative, but can't there be a law to photoshop social housing communities out of NYC pictures? Better yet, replace them with something sustainable and not stomach churning.
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Old May 21st, 2017, 03:28 PM   #5828
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I hope that social housing buildings will be redeveloped and reorganised once. It looks like a huge waste of space and beautiful riverfront area. They could build a whole new dense CDB right at the east river, that would make that part one of a kind and still integrate the same amount of social housing inside this development.
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Old May 21st, 2017, 03:55 PM   #5829
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I hate to be negative, but can't there be a law to photoshop social housing communities out of NYC pictures? Better yet, replace them with something sustainable and not stomach churning.
Not all of those are projects. A lot of those brick buildings are part of Stuyvesant town which is full of wealthy families. It's full of parks and green space and also cut off from cars so it's really quiet and unique for Manhattan. It's actually kind of weird.
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Old May 21st, 2017, 04:18 PM   #5830
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I hate to be negative, but can't there be a law to photoshop social housing communities out of NYC pictures? Better yet, replace them with something sustainable and not stomach churning.
...Wow.

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I hope that social housing buildings will be redeveloped and reorganised once. It looks like a huge waste of space and beautiful riverfront area. They could build a whole new dense CDB right at the east river, that would make that part one of a kind and still integrate the same amount of social housing inside this development.
I love skyscrapers, but NYC would not be worth going to or living in if ideas similar to this didn't have significant pushback. One of many examples:
https://www.curbed.com/2016/5/4/1150...rt-moses-lomex.
The riverfront area is active and is used - it's a critical amenity for the people in the surrounding neighborhoods. And yes, it is quite beautiful. I've used it myself. The neighborhoods are socio-economically diverse and the idea of displacing the tens of thousands of people there, even temporarily, is frankly disturbing.

A city is not its skyscrapers - a city is its people, its water mains and wastewater treatment, its electric grid, its dynamism, its workers, its food, its production, its waste, its history, its present and so on. Skyscrapers are the expression of a city's density, demand, and when we're lucky - art, and when we're not as lucky, greed.

Hudson Yards is an expression of a city that's still growing but without land to grown on - so it's built atop an active rail yard - which is exactly the space that the development needed to grow on. It's an impressive development and I'm excited to see the finished product.
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Old May 21st, 2017, 04:27 PM   #5831
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If that is disturbing to you then you really need to step out of your house a bit. Maybe you've never been out of the United States, but if you have ever seen the destructive such "communities" do to people as a whole and on an individual level in their many instances in Eastern Europe, you'd understand the desire to give people a place that feels like a home, not a place to dump and forget them. Social housing is never truly social if it is depressing, since there is nothing less social than depression. Doing away with all ghetto-like communities will ease a multitude of problems for every city in the world. That is a fact and to refer to it as "disturbing" is frankly shocking.
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Old May 21st, 2017, 05:13 PM   #5832
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If that is disturbing to you then you really need to step out of your house a bit. Maybe you've never been out of the United States, but if you have ever seen the destructive such "communities" do to people as a whole and on an individual level in their many instances in Eastern Europe, you'd understand the desire to give people a place that feels like a home, not a place to dump and forget them. Social housing is never truly social if it is depressing, since there is nothing less social than depression. Doing away with all ghetto-like communities will ease a multitude of problems for every city in the world. That is a fact and to refer to it as "disturbing" is frankly shocking.
Question for you, where do you propose we uproot all these people when we find the magical money to redo the areas. America is not Europe. Now don't get me wrong I understand what you're saying and actually agree with much of what you say but there is reality and fantasy. Second, really Charles Manson? Now that's disturbing.
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Old May 21st, 2017, 05:51 PM   #5833
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I hate to be negative, but can't there be a law to photoshop social housing communities out of NYC pictures? Better yet, replace them with something sustainable and not stomach churning.

Those projects look ugly AF.
However, for a person who talks about photoshopping social housing communities out of every NYC pics being enforced by law I can think of a few different words other than 'negative'
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Old May 21st, 2017, 06:13 PM   #5834
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Question for you, where do you propose we uproot all these people when we find the magical money to redo the areas. America is not Europe. Now don't get me wrong I understand what you're saying and actually agree with much of what you say but there is reality and fantasy. Second, really Charles Manson? Now that's disturbing.
1. Things don't have to be done all at once, of course. Money is pretty magical considering the many ways you can invest even small amounts. Of course I know governments invest money in a way that they spend a million on something that costs 100k (yes, I'm German, and I'm sure Berlin will have an international airport one day), but in theory, with smart spending, you could slowly, piece-by-piece upgrade all social housing from depressing dumps to modern interconnected communities.

2. (Very off-topic) A commentary on the herd mentality shown after the Charlie Hebdo attacks.

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Those projects look ugly AF.
However, for a person who talks about photoshopping social housing communities out of every NYC pics being enforced by law I can think of a few different words other than 'negative'
A joke, obviously. I'm a dark humour guy.
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Old May 21st, 2017, 06:39 PM   #5835
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Question for you, where do you propose we uproot all these people when we find the magical money to redo the areas. America is not Europe. Now don't get me wrong I understand what you're saying and actually agree with much of what you say but there is reality and fantasy. Second, really Charles Manson? Now that's disturbing.
How about this for an idea.

Most big rental buildings built in the city are built using a tax deduction called 80-20, where 20% of the units in the brand new luxury building are affordable. There are lotteries for these units with literally hundreds, or thousands of people, depending on the location of the new building, applying for each single unit of affordable housing.

Offer the current residents of these housing projects units in brand new luxury developments, so they skip the lottery and go to the front of the line, if they decline a brand new apartment in a luxury building paying a fraction of it market rate, that's on them, lease the land the housing projects currently occupy to private developers, require the new buildings to be 80-20, and use the revenues from leasing the land to upgrade/fix city infrastructure.

Current residents of housing projects are offered brand new apartments, the city housing stock increases, and the city gets a permanent annual revenue stream to fund infrastructure. It's a win-win-win.
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Old May 22nd, 2017, 12:11 PM   #5836
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Old May 22nd, 2017, 02:46 PM   #5837
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Old May 22nd, 2017, 02:48 PM   #5838
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What an amazing pic, it's truly as NYC as it can get.
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Old May 22nd, 2017, 03:38 PM   #5839
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Not all of those are projects. A lot of those brick buildings are part of Stuyvesant town which is full of wealthy families. It's full of parks and green space and also cut off from cars so it's really quiet and unique for Manhattan. It's actually kind of weird.
Walked through Stuyvesant town once. Nice and quiet area.

No way in hell these housing projects gets replaced.
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If that is disturbing to you then you really need to step out of your house a bit. Maybe you've never been out of the United States, but if you have ever seen the destructive such "communities" do to people as a whole and on an individual level in their many instances in Eastern Europe, you'd understand the desire to give people a place that feels like a home, not a place to dump and forget them. Social housing is never truly social if it is depressing, since there is nothing less social than depression. Doing away with all ghetto-like communities will ease a multitude of problems for every city in the world. That is a fact and to refer to it as "disturbing" is frankly shocking.
We get it, you think your better than poor people.
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