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Old December 8th, 2011, 01:25 PM   #781
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I thought one57 was only hotel and apartments and no office space?
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Old December 8th, 2011, 02:10 PM   #782
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I thought one57 was only hotel and apartments and no office space?
There is no office space at One57. They're speaking about a store.
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Old December 8th, 2011, 06:20 PM   #783
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Foreigners will part with their roubles, reais and rupees if they can say to their peers they bought on top of the Park Hyatt. But NEVER to be above a department store..

They meant the site near Columbus Circle, clearly.
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Old December 12th, 2011, 01:51 AM   #784
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What will they actually raze for the entire HY proyect? There is this old beautiful red building next to MC Dons on 34th street, or this older white cladded building on 10th avenue. Will the raze them too and or do we have any official plans which show what will be razed and what not? The warehouses and garages can go, but some facades should be conserved and reintegrated into the new buildings imho.
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Old December 16th, 2011, 05:21 AM   #785
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its a great proposal..surely adds beauty to NYC!!
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Old December 20th, 2011, 02:16 PM   #786
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I like the manhattan skyline because has beautiful clusters of beautiful scrapers, not a chaotic forests of condos and some huge skyscrapers both beautiful and ugly.

I like too much this project because will enlarge the central manhattan cluster and I like the design of buildings.

Imho america(usa+canada but also the AUZ+NZ style is the same) has the best cluster design and will keep having it judging the new skyscraper cities.
I totally agree. Asian and South American cities sicken me with the huge amount of stumpy and as cheap as possible apartment towers. US, Canada and Australia build the most attractive skyscraper cities. These are countries with significant wealth to spend on the design and the art of all buildings.
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Old December 20th, 2011, 02:23 PM   #787
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I agree. These segments of the NY skyline show why it is the king and always will be pre-WW II skyscrapers will never be replicated.



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Old December 20th, 2011, 02:53 PM   #788
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i know its all the fashion now but with all these modern skyscrapers going up i would love to see some old style scraper going up other than just glass; i hope they dont tear down some nice architectural building for this, although the plans are unreal! when are they going to start it?
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Old December 20th, 2011, 02:56 PM   #789
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Yeah architects today are far to obsessed with glass. Whatever happened to granite and metal. Is nobody looking at the beautiful facade of Citigroup Center?
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Old December 20th, 2011, 03:30 PM   #790
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And even if nowadays architects try to copy the style of old scrapers they just end up making an ugly kitsch like Abby in Mecca. If they can't duplicate old skyscrapers they shouldn't even try
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Old December 20th, 2011, 04:05 PM   #791
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i know its all the fashion now but with all these modern skyscrapers going up i would love to see some old style scraper going up other than just glass; i hope they dont tear down some nice architectural building for this, although the plans are unreal! when are they going to start it?
This area of Manhattan is a wasteland. There is nothing out there, it's being built on top of an active rail yard. The shorter of the two office buildings is going to start in the spring of 2012.

@Kanto: I typically agree, there are some exceptions, I think 99 Church is a good example of a modern building built in an old style that looks like it could turn out quite well. Obviously we only have renders, but it looks pretty good.
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Old December 20th, 2011, 04:15 PM   #792
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And even if nowadays architects try to copy the style of old scrapers they just end up making an ugly kitsch like Abby in Mecca. If they can't duplicate old skyscrapers they shouldn't even try
Beacuse the Mecka project is kitsch, all stone scrapers will be kitschy?

If we could build stonescrapers 80 years ago, why not nowadays?
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Old December 20th, 2011, 05:17 PM   #793
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Nice.
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Old December 20th, 2011, 09:56 PM   #794
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Beacuse the Mecka project is kitsch, all stone scrapers will be kitschy?

If we could build stonescrapers 80 years ago, why not nowadays?
We technically could but they always seemed to turn out as sh*t.
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Old December 20th, 2011, 10:51 PM   #795
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in the past there was more of a demand for skyscrapers to look pretty and have as much art as possible. now its all about how much floor space you can get for how cheap. :/
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Old December 20th, 2011, 11:37 PM   #796
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I totally agree. Asian and South American cities sicken me with the huge amount of stumpy and as cheap as possible apartment towers. US, Canada and Australia build the most attractive skyscraper cities. These are countries with significant wealth to spend on the design and the art of all buildings.
I agree. Currently, many cities have some beautiful skyscraper, but the entire rest of the city is an architectural pure garbage.

Most of these cities, only build super-tall buildings to say "Hello world, I can build tall buildings." Hahaha, pathetic.

In Asia has super high buildings, but in South America there is only one super tall (which is in Chile). The other countries is just a hellish amount of highrises.
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in the past there was more of a demand for skyscrapers to look pretty and have as much art as possible. now its all about how much floor space you can get for how cheap. :/
If they truly went only for floor space and nothing else all new buildings would be boxes, so I think design is still being considered by most developers
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Old December 21st, 2011, 12:11 AM   #798
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If they truly went only for floor space and nothing else all new buildings would be boxes, so I think design is still being considered by most developers
Ohh, that would be heaven for you Kanto. A world full of boxes
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Old December 21st, 2011, 12:18 AM   #799
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LOL yeah, it would be pure awesomeness
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Old December 21st, 2011, 01:03 AM   #800
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but you cant deny that is certainly far more of a factor now than it was back then.
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